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Old 01-24-2017, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default SSD V2 Steering Link vs. VP / Incision Steering Link

Does the SSD V2 steering link give more clearance around the diff cover, equating to more turning radius, than the VP / Incision steering link?

I have the Incision steering link and it rubs on the diff covers when fully turned. I know I can set the servo endpoints to limit the steering, but I would rather that my diff cover not be the limiting factor for my turning radius.

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Old 01-24-2017, 09:25 PM   #2
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:07 AM   #3
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What does your current setup look like?

I have the Vanquish tie rod with the Vanquish knuckles and it has tons of clearance. The diff cover actually sticks out further than the tie rod so the axle is the first point of contact when encountering obstacles.

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Old 01-25-2017, 06:11 AM   #4
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I will take a photo when I get home but my servo is on top of the axle in the normal position, therefore my steering link being rotated as highly as yours won't work. It's currently in front of the diff cover. When the steering is to the extremes the steering link hits the diff cover and limits the steering.
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Old 01-25-2017, 08:32 AM   #5
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Move your servo back and tip the tie rod up. Turn the rod in the ends to hold it in the position you want, o rings on the balls help too.



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Old 01-25-2017, 09:03 AM   #6
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How do you have the tie rod mounted? Mine does not get anywhere close to the diff at full lock.
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:38 AM   #7
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Is that turned all the way? If so, that is a crazy amount of clearance compared to mine. I will snap some photos tonight. I have the VP V2 housings with VP diff cover.
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:17 PM   #8
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Is that turned all the way? If so, that is a crazy amount of clearance compared to mine. I will snap some photos tonight. I have the VP V2 housings with VP diff cover.
Yep that's full lock, knuckles are bottomed out on the axle housing. I have the scale knuckles but that shouldn't change where they mount.
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Old 01-25-2017, 12:24 PM   #9
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Clearance at full lock with the new SSD front tie rod. The marks on my diff cover are from the other tie rod you mentioned. I am running SSD knuckles though. So they probably play together best.



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Old 01-25-2017, 12:55 PM   #10
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It's titanium not glass so just slip the tie rod in a vice and whack it with a hammer. A couple more degrees on each bend and a half turn on the rod ends will fix it right up.
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Old 01-25-2017, 04:38 PM   #11
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Aright, here are some photos. Where did I got wrong?







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Old 01-25-2017, 05:04 PM   #12
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Flip your servo mount to mount the servo from behind. Grind the bottom hole off the Axial arm. The arm are drag link will tuck in behind the tie rod and you can twist it up out of the way.
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:25 PM   #13
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Okay...but what I don't understand is how all of this is from the same company and is supposed to be direct stock replacement, yet it doesn't fit together without modification? Defeats the purpose of buying a bolt on upgrade. Then the VP servo horn doesn't fit my new savox servo without modification or force pressing it onto the servo. End rant.

Thats why I thought I must have installed it wrong. I just got the SSD steering links delivered. Will give those "bolt on" upgrades a try and see if they require modification to work.

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Just about everything requires a little help.
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You have the 3D diff cover so it's thicker than the rest right where the tie rod wants to be. Bend the tie rod a bit and give it another alignment and you're done
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Okay...but what I don't understand is how all of this is from the same company and is supposed to be direct stock replacement, yet it doesn't fit together without modification? Defeats the purpose of buying a bolt on upgrade. Then the VP servo horn doesn't fit my new savox servo without modification or force pressing it onto the servo. End rant.

Thats why I thought I must have installed it wrong. I just got the SSD steering links delivered. Will give those "bolt on" upgrades a try and see if they require modification to work.
Oh man don't get me started, I've received several parts from VP recently that didn't fit at all the way they should have. Not compatible with their own parts, not compatible with stock parts, I don't know what's going on lately but this isn't the same VP I was buying from a year ago. You shouldn't have to grind on a set of $45 knuckles to get them to fit on a $130 axle. Maybe I'm crazy. SSD knuckles fit VP's Currie better than VP's knuckle did.
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What does your current setup look like?

I have the Vanquish tie rod with the Vanquish knuckles and it has tons of clearance. The diff cover actually sticks out further than the tie rod so the axle is the first point of contact when encountering obstacles.

also try putting the tie rod and drag link on top of the steering arm like this one, should work reguardless of the dope Dlux goodies you see here.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:56 AM   #18
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Maybe they are getting too big too quickly.....usually quality takes a hit when that happens.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:19 AM   #19
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This tree comes with 4mm off-set rod ends (top right). These help push the tie rod out a little further. My Incision tie rod was also binding on my diff cover until I switched to these ends. They need to be trimmed just a touch to eliminate toe out.

The SCX10 II comes with several of this tree. I'm not sure if all the off-set ends are used up or not. Otherwise it's a cheap pick-up at the hobby shop.
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Old 01-26-2017, 05:48 PM   #20
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SSD = 1
Incision = 0



With some room to spare! Now I will say this, and I know SSD is lurking on this thread, the rod end design for the SSD link seems weaker than the Incision design. I am assuming these have been proven to be plenty strong?
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