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Old 02-04-2009, 08:29 PM   #1
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I know why the choice was made to use the standard AX-10 axles in the new kit. Well I assume I know anyway...

But what are the chances that if the kit turns out to spark enough interest, you guys release a slightly narrower axle in the future?

I prefer running your axles over TLT's due to durability, and the ease of getting replacement parts. But cant quite ditch the TLT's yet due to the width on some of my builds.

I think I recall reading a post where it was considered, just wondering how much of a pipe dream it really is?
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:21 PM   #2
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I agree, narrower would be a nice option. I run you axles for durability also.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:25 PM   #3
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All they would need to do is make smaller housings and shafts. Not a whole new axle.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:31 PM   #4
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Default and tlt look stupid

and tlt's look stupid listen up axial, we know you more than capable, and listening so do it do it

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i agree as well maybe with a bolt on portal that would bring u out to the regular axle housing that would be so sick
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how bout coming out w/ a narrow offset wheel

you should be able to get the track width narower by a good 3/4 in
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how bout coming out w/ a narrow offset wheel

you should be able to get the track width narower by a good 3/4 in
they did that on this kit, they made narrower hexes and ran the offset as low as they could go. problem is, I have already been doing that.

a TLT width, MAYBE a hair narrower would really do wonders, we have option to go wider to match the track width we need, but you cant go narrower if needed..
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if they went narrower axles though for the existing truck its gonna throw other things off I would think.

frame width, shock mounting/angles ....... virtually have to redesign more then just axles.
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if they went narrower axles though for the existing truck its gonna throw other things off I would think.

frame width, shock mounting/angles ....... virtually have to redesign more then just axles.
If they were to sell a "kit" which included narrower axle housings and shorter shafts, crawlers would do what they have done since the start, they would make it work.

I would love to have a set of narrower axles.
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if they went narrower axles though for the existing truck its gonna throw other things off I would think.

frame width, shock mounting/angles ....... virtually have to redesign more then just axles.
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If they were to sell a "kit" which included narrower axle housings and shorter shafts, crawlers would do what they have done since the start, they would make it work.

I would love to have a set of narrower axles.
Exactly. It isn't that the Scorpion needs narrower axles, it's the fact that some custom builders want narrower axles for thier other projects. Instead of turning to outdated and sometimes hard-to-find parts, a narrow case and axle kit would bring with it all the benefits of the Axial design and parts support.
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Exactly. It isn't that the Scorpion needs narrower axles, it's the fact that some custom builders want narrower axles for thier other projects. Instead of turning to outdated and sometimes hard-to-find parts, a narrow case and axle kit would bring with it all the benefits of the Axial design and parts support.
BINGO!

Leave the kit be, I just want to buy axles, and make my own stuff..
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I like the idea of the narrow axle kit. They should also make the case more scale looking and make it leaf spring compatible. It would also be nice if they would use the Tamiya dimensions on the leaf spring mounts to introduce some sort of standard leaf mount dimensions, just like 1.9" wheels and 12mm hex etc...

If Axial aren't up for it, I certainly am. It was already on my todo list
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I'm sure the COST of re-tooling everything for the few that want narrower axels, would be astrinomical
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I'm sure the COST of re-tooling everything for the few that want narrower axels, would be astrinomical
That's what they said about the ring and pinions too.

IMO, scale is now really starting to grow, w/ the release of the SCX, it's only going to get bigger.
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I'm sure the COST of re-tooling everything for the few that want narrower axels, would be astrinomical
dang.. beat me too it!


whats the term? "its easier said then done"

this may be a good oportunity for aftermarket to step up on a narrow housing kit. anyone.. .anyone....
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:10 AM   #16
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With the right hex and wheel, you can get a narrow stance. I got an axle set to 8 3/8", wheel to wheel.

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Old 02-05-2009, 11:23 AM   #17
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You're close in width but I still can't build a 1.9 comp rig using Axial axles.

2.4.2 - Vehicle track width is limited to a maximum of 8 inches.

I'm planning out my 1.9 on paper and would really love to use Axial axles but I'm probably going to use TLT's due to width.
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dang.. beat me too it!

this may be a good oportunity for aftermarket to step up on a narrow housing kit. anyone.. .anyone....
Like I said, its on my list.

I would still like to hear what Axial have to say about the possibility of a factory kit?
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I'm sure the COST of re-tooling everything for the few that want narrower axels, would be astrinomical
yeah right take a look in the scale section how many pages of scale builds are there??? how many 1.9 trucks would switch to axials from TLT's.. throw that BS cost thing out the window... 10 grand for a new axle case mold and one new axle side is not a huge cost... based on the current scale market..

axial is doing what all companys do trying to recycle parts to ride a segment of the hobby.. they should have made the right axle for the new 1.9 thing..
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Old 02-05-2009, 12:26 PM   #20
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The rear axle could be made narrow really easy by just narrowing the straight axle adapters and shortening the shafts. Any aftermarket company could do this easily. I have plans to narrow a set of axles for 1 of my builds. You could also build a c hub with 1 side of the lower link mount on it and cut the axle housing short, then bolt up the new c hub and run cut down axles. Why someone after market hasn't done this is beyond me.
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