shocks for jeep rubicon rtr

[airride]

I want to change out the shocks ,will these shocks fit

RC4WD Superlift Superide 100mm Scale Shock Absorbers


Part Number*Z-D0032

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by airride

I want to change out the shocks ,will these shocks fit

RC4WD Superlift Superide 100mm Scale Shock Absorbers


Part Number*Z-D0032

These ?

any reasonable length inner spring shock can be fitted...
But that don't mean it's correct.

You do realize...
a linked suspension on a 1:1 rig
requires a coil-over type shock
to support its ride height !?

So... tho' they may be fitted and may work acceptably...
they're not visually correct.

IMO... those type of shocks should be fitted
to leaf sprung suspensions.

The King coil-overs would look more to scale...
if realism garners any interest by you.

Superlift products are designed for flat biller's
rolling around in monster tall chevys, fords and dodges
^ at least around these parts. (wannabe pretender's)

I'd never put Superlift anything on my 1:1
But I don't wear a hat... even with the brim facing forward.

[airride]

Okay thanks ,I will go with the king coil overs .

[JK Krawler]

I'm running those 100mm shocks,great shock.Working on fine tuning the spring rate

[pickled]

are these the shocks your talking about JK king 100mm piggyback

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by pickled

are these the shocks your talking about JK king 100mm piggyback

yeah
but they're somewhat costly... IMO
and the by-pass cans are just there for looks.
* (unnecessarily added sprung weight becomes the enemy, later on)

I use the 100mm Traxxas big bore plastic CO's
These aren't really to scale tho'
primarily because they have larger Dia. bores (body).

I like them
because they are cheap to buy, work well...
and can be found used for $ 20. per four.
^ prolly not much more if purchased new.

The Traxxas rebuild kits are inexpensive for these
and are commonly found at most reputable LHS or online.

As long as the scale details do not require perfection...
and that... performance is considered equally as appealing.
I think they are a good choice for the budget minded.

I happened to have 8 of these laying around...
Removed from my T-Max,
when going with upgraded alloy associated CO's
back in the day.
Bought two scx-10 chassis's recently...
so thought to use them 'cause I had them.

~I still have that Tmaxx with bling blue alloy CO's~ (never run)

with weigh in nearing 7.5 lbs
I use the Losi 4" soft springs (white) on mine...
My chassis's suspension is set
so that I have about 3/4" static sag (ride height)

This also leaves me with about 3/4" droop as well.
Works good IMO.

But a 100mm CO is really too long (tall)
for the stock chassis's suspension.
Replacing the stk. plastic links with alloy works better.
And if the suspension's ride height is set too high (tall)
Drive shaft pinion angles would suffer more.

* (the axle housings can be rotated to correct pinion angle issues.
but that's a whole different discussion and mo $$$)

I feel that if using 100mm CO's
the suspension should articulate minimally 60/40 (v^) travel
I run my suspension articulation at closer to 50/50 (v^)
The suspension should always be somewhat squat IMO
this allows for a wanted up travel stroke.

In layman's terms...

the suspension ride height should be set near neutral.
with 60% compression (down travel)
and 40% rebound (up travel)

[T I N Y]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

So... tho' they may be fitted and may work acceptably...
they're not visually correct.

IMO... those type of shocks should be fitted
to leaf sprung suspensions.

Did you forget about one of the most popular shocks there is?
Bilstein Shocks...there several other companies that make non coilover shocks for 4 link as well.
I'll give you that a lot of 4 link setups run coilover shocks. But on the other hand who really wants to "run with the pack" now a days. I sure don't.

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by T I N Y

I'll give you that a lot of 4 link setups run coilover shocks.

?

what other system do you know of
that works using a 1:1 linked suspension ?

just because it'll work on a toy...
doesn't mean it is correct.

I have Bilstein's shocks on the Rr. of my 1:1...
but my junk has Rr. leaf springs.

Are production Bilstein's the best ever made...

ummm... no... but the best for the cheapest $$$ maybe.

Just because it's a labeled or licensed copy doesn't mean
it's built by the same manufacturer or to their specs.
It most probably is not.

Most every import/replicator buys their crap from china
then pays licensing fees/royalties to the real manufacturer.

In the end... the customer pays for that.

[T I N Y]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

?

what other system do you know of
that works using a 1:1 linked suspension ?

Are you saying that no shocks other then coil overs work on a 4 link setup? Because "King" makes an air shock that can be used with a 4 link. Radflo makes an air shock for linked setups. Fox racing 2.0 "shox" are some. I will say this coil overs are the normal go to shock for a 4 link setup.BUT It's not the only way to go. IMO a clean looking shock with no coil on it looks better to me.UNLESS it's a nice and scale looking coil over.But there's only a couple really scale looking shocks out there with coil overs.

[JK Krawler]

Originally Posted by pickled

are these the shocks your talking about JK king 100mm piggyback

Yep those be the ones

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by T I N Y

Are you saying that no shocks other then coil overs work on a 4 link setup? Because "King" makes an air shock that can be used with a 4 link. Radflo makes an air shock for linked setups. Fox racing 2.0 "shox" are some. I will say this coil overs are the normal go to shock for a 4 link setup.BUT It's not the only way to go. IMO a clean looking shock with no coil on it looks better to me.UNLESS it's a nice and scale looking coil over.But there's only a couple really scale looking shocks out there with coil overs.

I've wheeled my 1:1 junk plenty...
and I've not seen these air shocks you mention...
on linked rigs.

I have seen air adjustable shocks on leaf sprung rigs...
But I don't see them as working better then a standard shock.

but if you say so...
I must be wrong

[T I N Y]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

I've wheeled my 1:1 junk plenty...
and I've not seen these air shocks you mention...
on linked rigs.

I have seen air adjustable shocks on leaf sprung rigs...
But I don't see them as working better then a standard shock.

but if you say so...
I must be wrong

I'd never say you were wrong..Maybe just haven't seen them yet.Here's a little write up on some .Radflo Suspension Technology - Air Shocks They seem to be gaining some popularity...Who knows maybe in a awhile this will be the next big thing.

[TacoCrawler]

Originally Posted by T I N Y

Maybe just haven't seen them yet.

I am getting older... and am not keeping up with current technologies
would seem.

I have heard of those...
but still... for the average wheeler those are likely to be too expensive
to purchase anyways.

Now if yer cash cow is unlimited...
then I guess the latest, greatest technology is a must do.

Will they make anyone be a better wheeler !?
likely not.

My 2.5 CO's cost about $200 plus to rebuild...
I can't imagine what those would cost !?

Wonder if the seals will survive as long as a standard CO's seal ? :dunno:
With a standard nitrogen filled 2.5 CO...
a rebuild is likely required when nearing 60K.
But they could leak off before then.
A standard 2.5" CO rebuild is already too costly for my wallet

I have used air supported shocks in the past
on leaf sprung rigs...
and I didn't really like the ride on the street.
For a "trail only" rig... might not be of any real concern. :dunno:

No matter... it's yer junk, to do with, whatever you want

Thanks for setting me straight

[T I N Y]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

I am getting older... and am not keeping up with current technologies
would seem.

I have heard of those...
but still... for the average wheeler those are likely to be too expensive
to purchase anyways.

Well....The shocks have been around sense the early 70's so it's not really new technologies. And for the price.The 2.5 fox (which holds 1000lbs each) are only $373.00 new. And the rebuild kit for them is between $20.and $30. I don't know about you but if I were building a tube buggy running a 4 link I'd be doing it on the cheap. And these would be right up my ally.

[Nix951980]

Originally Posted by T I N Y

Well....The shocks have been around sense the early 70's so it's not really new technologies. And for the price.The 2.5 fox (which holds 1000lbs each) are only $373.00 new. And the rebuild kit for them is between $20.and $30. I don't know about you but if I were building a tube buggy running a 4 link I'd be doing it on the cheap. And these would be right up my ally.

You also can run just coil springs in a 4 link setup and use a standard offroad shock.

[kgb424]

On my SCX10's I'm using stock Wraith shocks, that are 103mm I think, I changed out rod ends, with different lengths until I got them to 100mm, using stock Wraith springs with 30 weight shock oil, and ordered two sets of shock droop kits for the SCX10, just lower the center of gravity a little and play around with the mounting locations, I put the droop kits on my two Wraiths and they do help a lot. with 100mm shocks and 1.9'' Super Swampers Xl's, I got plenty of ground clearance now, and I like the lifted look.

[Cr00zah]

Originally Posted by TacoCrawler

You do realize...
a linked suspension on a 1:1 rig
requires a coil-over type shock
to support its ride height !?

Interesting. My 1:1 Land Cruiser has a factory 4-link rear and no coil-overs. The coil springs support the weight, shocks do the damping. Even the factory front straight axle has 2 leading arms and a panhard with coils, not coil-overs. Also had a Disco with same setup, and iirc Jeep solid-axle suspensions are not factory coilover.

Preaching has never required facts.

[ZippoMan]

What about these? Are they too short? King Off Road Scale Piggyback Adjustable Coil Over Shocks 90mm SCX10 TF2 Add Oil | eBay

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