Vanquish Product's CMS

[Hammer!]

Hello, another problem that i need solved with my scx10! I bought vanquish products CMS and i love it and everything, but i can't full compress the suspension because the servo arm knocks the axle housing (it doesn't really affect crawling performance, it just bugs my OCD sensors).

Cheers, Hammer!

[SkyJacked]

mine does the same thing but its close enough to full compression that it doesn't bother me that much. I would like to know to if there is a solution to it though. hope someone chimes in with good info.

[Ty@Tekin]

One of the drawbacks of CMS, there's almost always some interference but when you're crawling the axle only flexes side to side, not much straight compression going on unless you're jumping.

[1beatjeep]

I have both I see now way to hit here is 1 pic of it..Hope this helps.

[Ty@Tekin]

You have your servo horn 180* opposite of mine, which does work but it was throwing my steering geometry off a little bit.

[SkyJacked]

Thanks for the info TY I had the same thought and u are correct on the felxing. thanks for the insight

[Natedog]

Originally Posted by 1beatjeep

I have both I see now way to hit here is 1 pic of it..Hope this helps.

Looks good, for proper steering and full lock to lock travel, the servo horn should pivot in the same manner as the steering knuckles that it's moving.

[1beatjeep]

Originally Posted by Ty@Tekin

You have your servo horn 180* opposite of mine, which does work but it was throwing my steering geometry off a little bit.

When I was putting this together I see it would work best this way.If you turn the servo other way there is now way to work right thats my .02 cents.

[Ty@Tekin]

I get full lock to lock with my horn flipped and it keeps it more protected as it's further behind the bumper. To each his own, I just didn't like the servo horn sticking out that far. I used a Losi crawler horn, which helps give more vertical clearance and though about flipping the drag link to the left side but it needs to stay at the same angle and direction as the pan hard bar to work smoothly.

[2-shot]

I had the same problem. I had a Losi aluminum servo arm that I experimented with. I drilled and tapped a 3mm hole half way between the servo mounting hole (splined hole), and the factory drilled hole in the Losi servo arm. Then I cut the servo arm down enough to clear my axles. It turned out pretty good, and seems to work great! This also allows me to have the servo arm pointing towards the rear of my JK.
Here's a couple pics...







Sent from my modded TI-83 plus.

[Hammer!]

ok so ill go look at my truck in a minute, but i think i might turn the servo arm around so its pointing out the front, which shouldn't really matter because my bumper points out a fair bit.

[Hammer!]

ok so i went and took a look, forgot to post what i found, when i put the servo arm pointing outwards (towards the front of the car) it really just messed up all the steering so that was a no go also @2-shot, wouldn't a shorter servo arm provide a shorter turning radius?

[1beatjeep]

What set up do you have we need pic to help. .

Originally Posted by Hammer!

ok so i went and took a look, forgot to post what i found, when i put the servo arm pointing outwards (towards the front of the car) it really just messed up all the steering so that was a no go also @2-shot, wouldn't a shorter servo arm provide a shorter turning radius?

[Hammer!]

its just the vanquish cmd kit with the stock servo arm, stock axles and knuckles, and the axial aluminum steering link upgrade kit, ill get some pics up later

[Hammer!]

here are the pics. on a side note, notice the sick short course next to it (top speed 75 mph)

[1beatjeep]

In my mine that set up is for the rock jock axles.The set up I use is for the axial axle.

[2-shot]

Originally Posted by Hammer!

ok so i went and took a look, forgot to post what i found, when i put the servo arm pointing outwards (towards the front of the car) it really just messed up all the steering so that was a no go also @2-shot, wouldn't a shorter servo arm provide a shorter turning radius?

I have my steering EPA's set at max. I've lost maybe 5mm from full lock. I haven't ran my JK yet, still getting the finishing touches added to it. So, I'm not sure how critical that 4 or 5mm is going to be. It was something I was experimenting with. After I run it, I may end up "back at the old drawing board" with it.
I could actually go a couple mm longer. I was being generous on the amount I cut off the servo arm.

I didn't notice, or see if anyone else addressed this. Did you mount your servo to the CMS from the bottom, or from the top of the CMS? Meaning... Are your mounting ears on your servo under the CMS, or on top of the CMS? I have my servo mounted from the top of my CMS (VP bumper mount CMS). That gave me a littler more travel before the servo arm hit my pumpkin.




Sent from my modded TI-83 plus.

[Hammer!]

Originally Posted by 2-shot

I have my steering EPA's set at max. I've lost maybe 5mm from full lock. I haven't ran my JK yet, still getting the finishing touches added to it. So, I'm not sure how critical that 4 or 5mm is going to be. It was something I was experimenting with. After I run it, I may end up "back at the old drawing board" with it.
I could actually go a couple mm longer. I was being generous on the amount I cut off the servo arm.

I didn't notice, or see if anyone else addressed this. Did you mount your servo to the CMS from the bottom, or from the top of the CMS? Meaning... Are your mounting ears on your servo under the CMS, or on top of the CMS? I have my servo mounted from the top of my CMS (VP bumper mount CMS). That gave me a littler more travel before the servo arm hit my pumpkin.

Sent from my modded TI-83 plus.

its mounted under the cms, thanks for pointing that out, didn't think of it.

[fr8cture]

Originally Posted by Hammer!

here are the pics. on a side note, notice the sick short course next to it (top speed 75 mph)

Where is your panhard and the steering link is coming from the wrong side of the axle.

[Hammer!]

i don't have a panhard and the steering link is not coming from the wrong side of the axle