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Old 02-11-2016, 06:55 AM   #1
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Default Alternative brushed motor suggestions

Are there any direct bolt on brushed motors that are equivalent in performance to the stock 27T motor? Mine is still going and working fine, just wondering if the stock motors are really good motors and suggest replacing with the same or are there some others out there that will be the same speed/torque as stock that are good replacements??

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Old 02-11-2016, 07:06 AM   #2
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Most 27T motors will be similar in top end speed but higher quality motors will produce more torque due to being built with better materials. I like the Holmes TorqueMaster Expert series as a mid priced upgrade (about $45).
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:15 AM   #3
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I've had really good luck with rc4wd brushed motors. I like the 35t for crawling, a little more power and a little less speed. They have been pretty reliable and I run them in very heavy rigs. And they are cheap!
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:26 AM   #4
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I've had really good luck with rc4wd brushed motors. I like the 35t for crawling, a little more power and a little less speed. They have been pretty reliable and I run them in very heavy rigs. And they are cheap!
540 Crawler Brushed Motor 35T

This motor?

Will running this motor be more prone to breaking drivetrain? Or just have more climbing power
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Old 02-11-2016, 08:20 AM   #5
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That's the one. No it wont break stuff, it doesent have that much more power.
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:23 AM   #6
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Holmes Hobbies 27T Torquemaster Expert. Its an amazing motor!
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:15 AM   #7
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I'm partial to Team Brood Racing motors.


A well put together hand wound motor: Team Brood Racing :: Crawler Motors :: Handwound Motors :: Apocalypse

A budget conscious machine wound: Team Brood Racing :: Crawler Motors :: Machine Wound Motors :: Intensity

No matter what manufacturer you choose or turn you decide to go with, if you can budget the extra for a hand wound motor, it is worth it! Smoother power curves, much better low end resolution, and more overall power!
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:51 PM   #8
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Holmes Hobbies 27T Torquemaster Expert. Its an amazing motor!
THIS^^^

Run it on 3s lipo, and HELLO!
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:30 PM   #9
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THIS^^^

Run it on 3s lipo, and HELLO!

Is there any other way?!?
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:43 PM   #10
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Is there any other way?!?
Yes, yes there is! 3100 KV Roc 412 on 3s



But it isn't brushed, and certainly isn't budget friendly. It has the HELLO factor down though!
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:46 PM   #11
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Yes, yes there is! 3100 KV Roc 412 on 3s



But it isn't brushed, and certainly isn't budget friendly. It has the HELLO factor down though!

Haha. OP asked for brushed options though.

Besides that fact, I havent had the chance to run the Roc. I only hear amazing things. I did just upgrade my Wraith to the Holmes Hobbies Trailmaster 3300kv and its a monster haha
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Old 02-11-2016, 05:59 PM   #12
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If you just want a fairly cheap stock replacement, look at the Holmes Hobbies Torquemaster Sport. They are fairly cheap and offer better performance over the stock one.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:13 PM   #13
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You have not mentioned your driving conditions...
If you run in muddy, wet conditions the stock motor may just be the ticket.
If you are running in drier conditions the upgrade may be advantageous.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:37 PM   #14
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Yes, 3s with 35t is plenty fast.
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:32 AM   #15
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My driving conditions varies from wet to dry. I also like to keep my stuff clean so I usually do a good hose down after a muddy run.
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In water, the cheaper motors tend to give better long term value. They don't produce as much power, they don't have brush hoods to get clogged, and so they end up lasting longer than a rebuildable style motor in water and mud.


It is the purpose for TrailMaster Sport motors. Folks wanted a "throw away" price motor for running in water. I just bumped up the quality where it counts so they have better performance than stock motors, without being too pricey.


The jump to Expert motors makes a big difference in torque, power, and control. But it's a risk getting them into water. The wrong conditions can blow through a set of brushes in just a few battery packs.
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:36 AM   #17
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I used the titan 21 turn. Cheap enough and seemed to have close to the same wheel speed. It's a 550 can I believe but still works!

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Old 02-12-2016, 09:22 AM   #18
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3s lipo, 35t motor, GREAT runtime. It provides really good speed where it's hard to keep your truck upright on turns. Plus, giving great torque for crawling. Lower turn motors will reduce runtime. But, even faster on 3s. Making it not so fun to drive. Because, your always wheeling and when you brake to hard the truck does a forward flip. Lol
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:22 PM   #19
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How would the rc4wd 35t motor do on 2s?? I run 2s and don't plan to run 3s anytime soon
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Old 02-16-2016, 04:38 PM   #20
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2S on 35T motors is quite slow.
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