Shock recommendations

[TFitzPat87]

Hi Guys, so unfortunately my stock shocks are leaking (big surprise, right?) after my first shake down since I finally got my ESC. So I removed em, cleaned em up, added oil, and tightened em up as tight as possible (just like I did initially), took the Xj for another ride and they're leaking again. So just gonna upgrade now.

Anyway, what shocks would you guys recommend? Not looking to spend a fortune but want something solid. Maybe something in the 90 to 110mm range? It's really just used for fun, romping around on, and getting beat up.

I'm sure this has been covered before, so I apologize, but I was having trouble finding threads focused on SCX10 II's. Which surprised me considering this is a common problem.

Thanks in advance!

[Haziza]

Traxxas big bore shocks with axial 14x70 springs, you wont find anything better!

[Motorider]

Go for the Traxxas big bore shocks. They are what I have installed now. I have not had time to tune them, but I am running losi 2.75" 2.0lb (pink) Springs with 30 wt oil in front. I believe I will change to the 3 hole pistons. They come with 2 hole installed. The rears are setup with losi 2.75" 1.4lb (gold) Springs with 50wt oil. Again I think I want to change to 3 hole pistons. It's very slow. I may try a few oils first. I also bought losi 2.3lb Springs. I may try some axial 70mm 1.75 lb springs too.

I think the stock Springs are 2.63 lb front and 1.12 lb in the rear.
Traxxas 93mm big bore shocks - TRA 2661 ~$15/pr

Springs guide




http://www.teamlosi.ru/techtips/spring_chart.htm

I will be posting up when I get some time to tune this setup. It has just been crazy here. 2 birthdays for my girls in the last 2 weeks. Huge thanksgiving and now my mom's 60th party is at my place this next weekend. It may be after christmas.

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[ajsmcs]

Yup. Dollar-for-dollar nothing beats Traxxas shocks. If "bulletproof" is what you're looking forward, Traxxas is where you go, and their shocks are no exception.

[IVIaarten]

Installed some Gmade Diaphragm 93mm shocks a week ago. They're a bit thicker than stock, but seems a lot more durable. And leak free.

[TFitzPat87]

Thanks, guys! Appreciate the info! I'll definitely give those a looksy.

Anyone have any experience with these... Gmade XD Piggyback Shock 103mm (2) ??? I assume they'd add a little bit of lift, but I plan on putting weight down low on the axles. Again, just for bashing around and seeing what I can drive over. If I ever check or enter a comp, I'll make any necessary adjustments.

[IVIaarten]

I would suggest the 93mm, the 103 will add quite a bit of lift, and make your wheelbase look shorter/mess with geometry.
The piggybacks are identical to the diaphragms apart from the top so should be good. Difference is the piggybacks have more adjustment options.

[TFitzPat87]

Originally Posted by IVIaarten

I would suggest the 93mm, the 103 will add quite a bit of lift, and make your wheelbase look shorter/mess with geometry.
The piggybacks are identical to the diaphragms apart from the top so should be good. Difference is the piggybacks have more adjustment options.

Which ones are the diaphragms? I don't really need all the adjustment. Just a solid shock that won't leak.

What length are the big bores? They look short on RPP and it doesn't mention length.

[Motorider]

Originally Posted by TFitzPat87

Which ones are the diaphragms? I don't really need all the adjustment. Just a solid shock that won't leak.

What length are the big bores? They look short on RPP and it doesn't mention length.

The part number I gave you is for the 93mm. Stock is 90mm. 103 is way too tall. Think of it this way. It's only 13mm or 1/2", but it's a 15% increase in height from a scale perspective. That is huge. A stock rubicon has a 17" ride height, so an equivalent lift would be about 2.5". That is more like a mud truck than a rock crawler. One thing to also remember is that more articulation is not necessarily better.

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[TFitzPat87]

Originally Posted by Motorider

The part number I gave you is for the 93mm. Stock is 90mm. 103 is way too tall. Think of it this way. It's only 13mm or 1/2", but it's a 15% increase in height from a scale perspective. That is huge. A stock rubicon has a 17" ride height, so an equivalent lift would be about 2.5". That is more like a mud truck than a rock crawler. One thing to also remember is that more articulation is not necessarily better.

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Thanks! Yeah, somehow missed that initially. I ended up going with the 93mm G-made Diaphragms. I was finding the big bores at a couple different prices, and it still looked like I needed to order springs as well.

RPP for the win! 4 shocks, set of "soft" springs for the rear, some green slime, and $5 off. Plus somehow they manage to get my stuff from CA to MI in 2 days (3 days tops).

Thanks again! If these happen to give me trouble, I'll check out the Big Bores down the road.

[Motorider]

Sounds like a plan. Give us some feedback on what you think about the shocks. Mostly interested in leaks and performance.

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[IVIaarten]

Originally Posted by Motorider

Sounds like a plan. Give us some feedback on what you think about the shocks. Mostly interested in leaks and performance.

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I recently installed a set of these myself.
First impressions; they seem very solid, require a little spacer between the shocks and the shock hoops since they're a bit thicker. Standard (I think medium) springs seems a tad on the firm side, but I've added some weight recently, so I'm going to let them settle in and see how I like them.

The truck is sitting a bit higher, but torque twist (that I had with leaky rear shocks) is completely gone.
I think I'll end up removing the rubber bump stops to get a bit more travel. Should be no problem since the diaphragm can handle full compression the way I set them up (low pressure). That should give the same up-travel as the stock shocks.

I'll let you know if I develop any leaks with some more run time on them, but they seem solid so far.

[TFitzPat87]

I'll definitely post what I think. I'm no pro but as long as they don't leak and don't seem slow or stiff, I'll be happy.

[IVIaarten]

As requested;

Can confirm the top plastic ball is a bit too small and doesn't snap into place. I've stuck with them, but added a plastic washer that was included in my scx10-2 kit between the shock and the bolt to make sure it stays put.

[TFitzPat87]

Cool man! Thanks again! This will be a good help for any others who run into the same issue.

[bonedog]

I put in the big bores, but can't figure out a good spring for them

[Bananaclip]

Blue is fantastic on all 4 corners of a heavy rig. Light rig I like soft up front and medium rear. Right now my daughters stock V2 has pink on all 4's (looks mostly. Lol) but I will be going mediums in the rear. To much twist. So in theory a stiffer rear spring has always been the treat for me. You just have to experiment and find the right balance for your rig.

[doubler]

Makes total since. Stiffer spring in the rear keeps the vehicle flat/planted. Light springs in the front allows the rig to contour to the terrain. Thanks for the advise BC!

[bonedog]

Are you referring to the losi or traxxas or axial 14x70?

[bonedog]

I believe I bought the xl big bores 93 mm. I put on the mini losi springs and using the dlux setup, looks cool and more scale but not impressed with the ride height, seem to sag to much. Used the firms all around.