MIP 14390 & Front Shaft beef up review:

[GLwagon]

This is for the SCX10ii Kit setup ONLY.
Not for the RTR.
Cliff Notes:
1) Buy one MIP # 14390 for the rear
2) Buy one MIP # 9137 for the front. (use original pins from shaft to to axle not included setscrews)
3) ???
4) Profit


Rear: TowerHobbies.com | MIP X-Duty Rear C-Drive Kit Yeti
After contacting MIP in regards to a set of shafts for the SCX10ii Kit form & they commented they had no plans at this time.
Cross referencing kit parts with what parts bin Axial stole the drive shafts from, the Yeti rear shaft is equal.
MIP # 14390 is the part; However, it must be put on backwards, the transfer case must be loosened up to get it on & then re-tightened, lastly the skid plate needs a little clearancing with a dremel directly under the cup or it will rub.
I used Loctite Blue & not the included thread lock with the shafts. I have heard horror stories of the MIP lock being like Loctite Red (tough stuff)
It magically fits past the bottom of the gearbox at full suspension compression... neat.
It fits, it looks great & has that solid MIP feel.

Front:
I thought I would give the STRC STA31397R shaft insert a try.
Also the STRC red drive cup covers.
Unimpressive.
That's it in a nut shell, unimpressive, it is undersized & sloppy. I'm actually fearful it will strip the rest of the shafts under high load.
The drive cup covers are cute & I like those.
I also have a set of the Axial # AX30501 drive cup covers lying around and they tightly fit the stock shafts. They make me feel better, but likely aren't needed. Be careful to not over tighten the setscrews on the collars, just snug is good.
I know this isn't what these were made for but it cant hurt...

Update Front: TowerHobbies.com | MIP Spline CVD DIG Kit Rear Axial AX10
The MIP # 9137 Dig Kit for AX10 is a perfect fit for SCX10ii front drive shaft.
No extra parts needed, & re-use your OEM pins for pinning the shafts.

-GLwagon

[GLwagon]

Here is the rest of the rig...

[GLwagon]

I will try the MIP # 09137 as a front shaft & # 11117 long drive to see if it will work.

MIP Spline CVD™ DIG Kit, Rear, Axial AX10 (1) #09137

The stock front is about 97mm end to end installed.
The mip parts are 15mm + 15mm + 40mm of shat = 70mm tight (90mm extended?).

The extended drive cup (long) # 11117 may be needed.
http://www.miponline.com/store/mip11117.html

[84yoda]

What's the front stock shaft measure bolt to bolt at ride height?

I don't have the smaller dig mip but I have a wraith mip with different length ends I can measure for you.

I would think either, dig with both extra long ends or maybe a wraith with short yeti ends will work.

[GLwagon]

Center to center on the output shaft to input shaft is 88mm

[84yoda]

A wraith MIP compressed with 2 short yeti ends is 88mm output bolt hole to output bolt hole.

A yeti end is 9mm, standard wraith length end is 14mm and extra long wraith end is 19mm. That's measuring the pin on female/male to output bolt hole.

[allanon1965]

I have yet to tear up a stock WBHD axial drive shaft and I am running roc 412 3100kv motor with castles mmp... Is there a specific reason you want to run steel shafts?

[GLwagon]

The only shafts I have blown up is old school plastic u-joint style. (like on my Tamiya CR-01)
I like the quality of the stock parts it is a good design & has been solid.
This is definitely an "option" upgrade & not needed, and if money is tight spend it on the better things like tires & rims.
There is a little wear on the shaft where dirt & debris have rubbed near the T-case, & the sharp rocks that can get at the shaft that is exposed when I have been high-sided.
The amount of wear or cutting into the shaft is more than I expected for the hours on the chassis.
When I go out for a day it is a piece of mind & one less thing to worry about.
The tightness & quality of MIP is second to none.
I have MIP on my AX10 and they have been bullet proof.
I consider the MIP to be an investment.
Lastly, some times I like to spoil my self.

[GLwagon]

Originally Posted by 84yoda

A wraith MIP compressed with 2 short yeti ends is 88mm output bolt hole to output bolt hole.

Good to know, I don't think it will allow enough compression from a hard hit/fall & will transmit it directly into the t-case in a bad way.
I will source a shorty "dig" shaft & test.

[Shawns303]

I am running the Revo short male and a Slash female with std outputs.

Could probably even use a long Wraith output at the axle but there is plenty of engagement without it.

[GLwagon]

Nice!
The dig kit is is made of:
# 08139 E-revo Male short
# 08111 Ax10 Female
Rebuild kit # 08105

The Wraith long male ball end # 11117 uses rebuild # 08105 from its original kit # 11116

The Traxxas Slash Females are # 10135

The Yeti # 14390 takes rebuild # 1147 (X-Duty)

All use pin set # 10142

Your Sharpie marker has a broken tab.

[GLwagon]

Just installed the MIP # 9137 on my SCX10ii Kit front drive shaft.
Just had to reuse the original shaft pins, not included setscrew.

[lzysmrf]

For my rear male shaft, i used a SuperShafty Exclusive Shaft. Length is perfect. For the front, I'm waiting on my MIP dig shaft to arrive.

[lzysmrf]

Dig shaft is a perfect fit. OK, MIP, we have done the R&D. Now just put the kits together and get them out the door.

[durok]

Awesome thread, but MIP hasn't even released a Bomber kit yet, have to get SuperShafty's if you don't want leftover parts. I'm trying stock Axial shafts with out-of-production Carter FAB retainer rings at the ends. Silly me had also ordered those STRC aluminum shafts and during test fitting they are quite loose. Probably won't run them. Read a review that stated stock with Carter FAB parts are very rugged.

[GLwagon]

By the OEM part numbers Axial Bomber Rear = MIP 14390.
Here is a Bomber thread MIP Install Help

[Jamifra]

has someone done this for the RTR Version? thanks in advance!

[whitrzac]

Originally Posted by Jamifra

has someone done this for the RTR Version? thanks in advance!

Use the normal scx10 shafts for 12.3wb.

[Jamifra]

Originally Posted by whitrzac

Use the normal scx10 shafts for 12.3wb.

thank you sir!

[TKG26]

Glwagon.. Im about to order the two parts you recommended in your first post.. About to build a scx10 2 Kit version...

Was wondering what your long term results have been with them? Aside from the dremel work did they perform as expected?

Thanks

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