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Old 08-11-2021, 06:30 PM   #1
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I've come to realize that the stock housings on my 10ii Honcho need to be replaced. The front cover and bottom are paper thin and have holes, the rear side screws are angled apart and not holding the bearing/axle in.

What are good options to replace them? I want to upgrade, but Vanquish is out of the budget.

Are the AR45 straight axles a decent upgrade? What is needed to make that work on my 10ii?

Would SSD be the best bet?

Are there any other options I should consider?

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Old 08-11-2021, 06:51 PM   #2
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I've come to realize that the stock housings on my 10ii Honcho need to be replaced. The front cover and bottom are paper thin and have holes, the rear side screws are angled apart and not holding the bearing/axle in.

What are good options to replace them? I want to upgrade, but Vanquish is out of the budget.

Are the AR45 straight axles a decent upgrade? What is needed to make that work on my 10ii?

Would SSD be the best bet?

Are there any other options I should consider?

Thanks

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I'd personally recommend the SSD Pro44. They're very well made and (IMO) look much better than the AR44.
I can't really speak for their longevity though. I haven't had my TK for very long and don't drive it in such a way that I'm sliding on the axles all the time. However, being a three piece axle, you can replace just the diff housing (which come with two different covers) when you eventually start to wear through it again.

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Old 08-11-2021, 07:41 PM   #3
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I wouldn't rule out just getting a new Axial housing, they're only like $13.

I've seen a small amount of people having issues with the SSD housings, not meshing right when flipping the ring gear and grinding gears but I dont have first hand experience with those problems. My Trail king (Pro 44) axles have been fine for me.

I would say the AR45's are not an upgrade beyond maybe the new plastics they're using. The offset pumpkin could potentially cause clearance issues (hitting the panhard chassis mount on compression).
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Old 08-11-2021, 08:03 PM   #4
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X2 on the ssd housings. At $25 +/- each theyíre pretty reasonable. The pro44ís you canít flip the ring gear. Those would be with the diamond housings.
Depending on your budget, it might be worth upgrading your ring and pinion while youíre in there though, adding a little overdrive never hurt and going to a 6 bolt locker instead of the axial one piece design is a welcomed upgrade. Ssd makes all that stuff as well for a reasonable price IMO


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Old 08-11-2021, 08:19 PM   #5
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That's the kicker though. I put the HW 2-1 1800(?) brushless motor in it last year. I let my boys drive it and they knocked some teeth off of the ring gear. When I put Vanquish gears and lockers in it is when I noticed that the cover was paper thin and not really doing it's job if covering the gears. So I just rebuilt them when I saw I needed to do it again.

I just priced out the SSD front and rear housings($25 each), C-hubs($30) and link mounts($13) on RPP I'm at $93 before the discount. I'm sure I can find something else to get me free shipping.

I could probably save $30 and reuse the Axial C-hubs, but I'm not that cheap.

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The pro44ís you canít flip the ring gear. Those would be with the diamond housings.

You're right I was mixing those up, thanks
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Man the complete ssd pro44 front axle is like $129 I think. Rear is about $69. Not sure they come with link mounts though


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Man the complete ssd pro44 front axle is like $129 I think. Rear is about $69. Not sure they come with link mounts though


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They both come with link mounts but know drive pins, hexes or links.

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How long did it take you to get to this point? I love the looks of the SSD stuff, but if the stock housing lasted a couple of years, you're better off replacing with stock parts.
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How long did it take you to get to this point? I love the looks of the SSD stuff, but if the stock housing lasted a couple of years, you're better off replacing with stock parts.
I think I got it in the spring of 2018, so they lasted a little over 3 years.

I would like an upgrade though, because this has been my go-to rig since I got it and don't see it going anywhere. I'm sure most of the damage came from crawling up the stairs in front of my house and that won't stop.

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Old 08-12-2021, 05:58 PM   #11
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Treal just announced they have SCX10 II axles now available. Nice to see they stepped up, even though the II is a bit on the older side.
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Old 08-12-2021, 05:59 PM   #12
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The SSD axles are very nice and would fit also.
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Started installing the front axle and the C-hub hits the shock screw. Did I install something backwards?

When I took the pic I had slid the C-hubs off to install the shock. After tightening the shock screw I'm not able to get the C-hub back on the housing.

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Started installing the front axle and the C-hub hits the shock screw. Did I install something backwards?

When I took the pic I had slid the C-hubs off to install the shock. After tightening the shock screw I'm not able to get the C-hub back on the housing.

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Doesnt the shock mount on the other side of that mount? I thought they had double shear mounts being on on each side of the shock. opposed to just the one side like yours is. IMO. the bottom shock mount needs to go to the other side of that mount. Without better pics though, its only a guess.
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The bottom of the shock mounts directly above the links on the AR60 axles but on the 10.2/AR44's they are outboard of the link mount.

Its tight and SSD's design does make this difficult but it can be made to work.



Find some thinner ball ends that fit your shocks or modify them. I've used a countersink to narrow ball ends and it works well, you can then pair that with a flat/tapered head screw for even more space savings.



You could also use the link mount holes instead which will lower the truck a little.

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Looks like your axle c's are clocked at a different position than in the other picture
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I have a bit more caster than the stock setup but caster also plays into this
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You're using a jato ball that has more offset than Revo or stock axial. Clock in another wine of caster while you're there and it'll clear just fine.
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Thanks for all the advice.

I found exactly 2 balls from other rod ends I wasn't using, swapped those onto the shocks(Traxxas GTS? Whatever come on the TRX4) and they fit, but just barely. Hopefully I won't need any more for the rear axle.

The rear axel will have to wait a few more days before that can be put together because I forgot to order 2 sets of link mounts. I'd like to blame my puppy for my lack of sleep regarding this mistake, but I do stuff like that even when I do get enough sleep.

I understand my truck is a hodgepodge of Axial truck, SSD housings, Traxxas shocks and Vanquish gears and lockers. Stuff like this is bound to happen.

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I understand my truck is a hodgepodge of Axial truck, SSD housings, Traxxas shocks and Vanquish gears and lockers. Stuff like this is bound to happen.
My favorite trucks are a mix of parts from various brands.
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