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Old 10-21-2011, 03:13 PM   #961
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Get that mounted up cant wait to see it!
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This build thread is like one big advertising commercial
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Yeah yeah... His was hand delivered too

He made sure to send me pictures and brag about it yesterday.
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If you're going to put yourself up there with the late great Billy Mays, you have to at least put an oxiclean logo on your body! Can we expect a nice closeup video of it in action? Also, any notes on how much it affects the suspension travel/articulation (if any). My blah friday was just made better with your good friday!
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If you're going to put yourself up there with the late great Billy Mays, you have to at least put an oxiclean logo on your body! Can we expect a nice closeup video of it in action? Also, any notes on how much it affects the suspension travel/articulation (if any). My blah friday was just made better with your good friday!
I will get video and everything very soon. I have to go into work again today to try and make some deadlines. I'll be back on this soon to get all the info up.

From initial testing it didn't limit the suspension at all.
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Which clamp style servo horns fit on the axle mounted servo? I guess the short robitronics one is too short?
My lhs cant get any robitronics ones so i was tring to find somthing else, seems the GH one is too long!
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Which clamp style servo horns fit on the axle mounted servo? I guess the short robitronics one is too short?
My lhs cant get any robitronics ones so i was tring to find somthing else, seems the GH one is too long!
I run the 1" version which I think is the short version. I clearanced the back of the end of the horn just slightly so it doesn't touch the VP diff cover.
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SO, this tie rod keeps the axle centered so when the servo actuates it actually turns the tires instead of flexing the axle. This defeats the purpose of a chassis mounted servo.

I hate to be a party pooper but this is one of the most pointless products I've seen. No performance gain (in fact steering performance will be worse). Aesthetically unpleasing( the point of a chassis mounted servo is to make the truck look more scale and realistic). Now with this we have a clamp on the axle and an extra tie rod in the mix. The front axle is going to look like a jumbled mess of tie rods and aluminum parts. No thanks.
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SO, this tie rod keeps the axle centered so when the servo actuates it actually turns the tires instead of flexing the axle. This defeats the purpose of a chassis mounted servo.
Defeats the purpose?! What?! This is exactly what a chassis mounted servo setup is supposed to be. A black anodized mount on the axle will not look out of place. I don't think you really understand what you're talking about.

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I hate to be a party pooper but this is one of the most pointless products I've seen. No performance gain (in fact steering performance will be worse). Aesthetically unpleasing( the point of a chassis mounted servo is to make the truck look more scale and realistic). Now with this we have a clamp on the axle and an extra tie rod in the mix. The front axle is going to look like a jumbled mess of tie rods and aluminum parts. No thanks.
If you look at scale builds or REAL builds you will see this is the same setup. There isn't "extra rods" at all.
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SO, this tie rod keeps the axle centered so when the servo actuates it actually turns the tires instead of flexing the axle. This defeats the purpose of a chassis mounted servo.

I hate to be a party pooper but this is one of the most pointless products I've seen. No performance gain (in fact steering performance will be worse). Aesthetically unpleasing( the point of a chassis mounted servo is to make the truck look more scale and realistic). Now with this we have a clamp on the axle and an extra tie rod in the mix. The front axle is going to look like a jumbled mess of tie rods and aluminum parts. No thanks.

It doesn't look much different than the pan hard bar mount on this actual 3 link..
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can it be made to work for rear steer?
The rear steer is quite simple to mount up with just a plate. Check it out.
First of its kind,"Top Secret BatMan" hybrid Wraith chassis with AX10 axles
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The rear steer is quite simple to mount up with just a plate. Check it out.
First of its kind,"Top Secret BatMan" hybrid Wraith chassis with AX10 axles
The concept is close. I just need a better mounting system. I think trying to hold a 500oz/in servo with four zip ties is going to end badly. We have looked at nice clamping type mounts.
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hmm looks cool, how much are these going to be?

one question . . . . why the three link? why not four link with no panhard? the only reason you need a panhard is when using a 3 link setup so there is no axle walk. if you have a well triangulated 4-link you dont need a panhard anymore. . . . good job vp for taking a step backwards on the suspension evolution time line.

my honcho has a custom built cms running 4-link and no panhard and i have absolutely no axle walk
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