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binaryterror · 08-02-2011, 08:13 PM

Great idea Eddie, looks like another product soon to come from Crawler Innovations!

Bulldog · 08-03-2011, 12:17 AM

Subscribed! Great pics! Following this rig for sure!

crawlski · 08-04-2011, 09:34 AM

Your build is looking great so far. I could'nt tell what shock cap mod you were talking about on the front shocks. Any other pics?

Nova's Ark · 08-05-2011, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crawlski

Your build is looking great so far. I could'nt tell what shock cap mod you were talking about on the front shocks. Any other pics?

Thank You for the kind words and just for you

:

You cut the eyelet off of the top of the Traxxas big bore aluminum shock cap. Then you drill and tap it for a 3mm screw. I use red loctite to seal the 3mm screw in the cap and attach a short Traxxas Rod End Part # 2742X. I have them in stock already but have not added them to the web site yet.

Nova's Ark · 08-05-2011, 09:07 PM

Stock Wraith Transmission taken apart:

Rear Case half that is for the Axial Dig Unit. I will wait and see if Axial actually releases the dig since they haven't released the cut brake for the XR-10, so you never know. If they release the dig, I will evaluate at that time the need for a rear trans output set up to handle Traxxas Maxx Shafts or not.

The next round of Crawler Innovations Maxx shafts is nearly ready. I have been helping out at the machine shop trying to get them caught up this week. The C.I. REAR High Clearance links are done along with more high clearance links like the ones used on this Wraith build.

Maybe others knew, but I did not, the AX-10 Trans Case and Wraith Trans Case are different. Pictured below is the Wraith front case and AX-10 rear case

Pictured below is the AX-10 front case and the Wraith Rear Case. It's only one mounting hole, but it's a crucial one:

AX-10 Trans Housing, Wraith Spur Gear Cover, and C.I. 6mm Maxx Trans outputs:

You can see that a Maxx Yoke still clears the Spur Gear Cover

. Current gearing is 87 Spur and 16 Pinion:

Nova's Ark · 08-05-2011, 09:10 PM

Here is a picture of my skid plate. If you focus on the lower links and where they mount to the skid, you'll notice that I removed some of the skid to allow the links room to freely move.

Nova's Ark · 08-05-2011, 09:14 PM

Clean, simple & very strong

The drive shaft follows the link nicely:

Crawler Innovations 1/16th Black Delrin Wraith Electronics Tray:

Rear Axle:

CarterFab · 08-05-2011, 10:16 PM

Looking good. Hope you are setting me some parts back. I'm going to swap out the trans in mine as well so I can run the max shafts. Electronics tray is gonna clean up and simplify a lot of peoples builds.

Nova's Ark · 08-23-2011, 03:45 PM

I finally got this running last Friday night. I got tired of waiting to drive it. Our local club has been meeting every Saturday morning at a local park so I brought it out last Saturday.

5 3/4" Tall Cut N Shut Panther Cobras.
They work awesome!

Everything under the hood nice and clean. 4S 1300 Mah Lipo:

I decided to give the RC4WD CVD's a try:

Nova's Ark · 08-23-2011, 03:47 PM

Let me start by saying, the fit and feel of these RC4WD CVD's when first installed was good and it definitely smoothed out the front turning. Now if you run them with short tires, 2S voltage and be nice to them, they will probably be fine.

That said, my experience with them on 4S and 5 3/4" tall was disastrous from the first time they had power to them.

1. The long side CVD pin broke in the first 30 feet. Not even 15 seconds of drive time and a CVD broke pin. Thankfully a Traxxas pin I had in my box fit perfect on diameter, but was a little long. I went ahead and used pliers to attach the ring around the pin.

2. The short side CVD pin lasted into the second battery pack before it broke. I replaced the pin and finished the second battery pack.

3. We came home and my son ran a third battery pack at the Crawler Innovations compound. That's when the long side CVD shaft broke.

4. I didn't run the truck for the first time until Saturday night when it broke the short CVD on the fourth battery pack.

I put the stock axle shafts back in and we have run 9 battery packs on them with no issues.

helhedded · 08-23-2011, 03:49 PM

I knew you had it in you, I'm proud of you

something tells me that it wasn't a difficult task.

Nova's Ark · 08-23-2011, 03:49 PM

A customer brought over a bunch of used parts to sell for him and this motor was in the collection. I checked to see if it would fit in the wraith since it looked about the scale size. After some modification of both the motor and chassis, this bolted to the C.I. wraith electronics tray no problem.

I was able to still mount the receiver and the light kit around/under the motor to still keep a clean look.

Billybongo63 · 08-23-2011, 05:17 PM

Nicely executed!
Thanks for testing the CVDs.
Diggin' the white delrin links.
Noob Q, is there an advantrage to running the shocks with the body on the downside?
Oh and I remember White Lightnings, wouldn't it be worth more if the tires were white rubber?

CarterFab · 08-23-2011, 05:32 PM

That engine would look so much better in "Southern Comfort". Dang you Eddie. See you tomorrow

Szczerba · 08-23-2011, 07:32 PM

Looking good Eddie. Really liking this build. The tires and motor put it over the top.

paulwf150 · 08-23-2011, 07:45 PM

Its about time you got that finished. I figured after Gavin drove mine he might get you to finish it up faster. I think we plan on coming to run with you guys this weekend!

eric113 · 08-24-2011, 06:50 AM

That disappointing to hear about the cvd's. Build is really shaping up!

txcrawl · 08-25-2011, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

5 3/4" Tall Cut N Shut Panther Cobras.
They work awesome!

i had the chancce to run these tires and all i can say is WOW!!!!! by far the best tires ive ever ran hooked on everything loose dirt, rock, and the red clay hills people where having to do full throttle assults on, not with these tires you could just drive up with hardly any spinning

rockspider · 08-25-2011, 03:22 PM

Will you be selling the delrin links set? Also available in black, right?

sloyota · 08-25-2011, 03:32 PM

im interested in one of those derlin wraith electronics tray's.can you PM some details..Thank You.Wes

08-05-2011, 09:07 PM	#25
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	Stock Wraith Transmission taken apart: Rear Case half that is for the Axial Dig Unit. I will wait and see if Axial actually releases the dig since they haven't released the cut brake for the XR-10, so you never know. If they release the dig, I will evaluate at that time the need for a rear trans output set up to handle Traxxas Maxx Shafts or not. The next round of Crawler Innovations Maxx shafts is nearly ready. I have been helping out at the machine shop trying to get them caught up this week. The C.I. REAR High Clearance links are done along with more high clearance links like the ones used on this Wraith build. Maybe others knew, but I did not, the AX-10 Trans Case and Wraith Trans Case are different. Pictured below is the Wraith front case and AX-10 rear case Pictured below is the AX-10 front case and the Wraith Rear Case. It's only one mounting hole, but it's a crucial one: AX-10 Trans Housing, Wraith Spur Gear Cover, and C.I. 6mm Maxx Trans outputs: You can see that a Maxx Yoke still clears the Spur Gear Cover. Current gearing is 87 Spur and 16 Pinion: Last edited by Nova's Ark; 08-05-2011 at 09:26 PM. Reason: added tech and information

08-05-2011, 09:14 PM	#27
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	Clean, simple & very strong The drive shaft follows the link nicely: Crawler Innovations 1/16th Black Delrin Wraith Electronics Tray: Rear Axle: Last edited by Nova's Ark; 08-05-2011 at 09:28 PM.

08-23-2011, 03:45 PM	#29
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	I finally got this running last Friday night. I got tired of waiting to drive it. Our local club has been meeting every Saturday morning at a local park so I brought it out last Saturday. 5 3/4" Tall Cut N Shut Panther Cobras. They work awesome! Everything under the hood nice and clean. 4S 1300 Mah Lipo: I decided to give the RC4WD CVD's a try: Last edited by Nova's Ark; 08-23-2011 at 03:56 PM. Reason: added tech and information

08-23-2011, 03:47 PM	#30
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	Let me start by saying, the fit and feel of these RC4WD CVD's when first installed was good and it definitely smoothed out the front turning. Now if you run them with short tires, 2S voltage and be nice to them, they will probably be fine. That said, my experience with them on 4S and 5 3/4" tall was disastrous from the first time they had power to them. 1. The long side CVD pin broke in the first 30 feet. Not even 15 seconds of drive time and a CVD broke pin. Thankfully a Traxxas pin I had in my box fit perfect on diameter, but was a little long. I went ahead and used pliers to attach the ring around the pin. 2. The short side CVD pin lasted into the second battery pack before it broke. I replaced the pin and finished the second battery pack. 3. We came home and my son ran a third battery pack at the Crawler Innovations compound. That's when the long side CVD shaft broke. 4. I didn't run the truck for the first time until Saturday night when it broke the short CVD on the fourth battery pack. I put the stock axle shafts back in and we have run 9 battery packs on them with no issues. Last edited by Nova's Ark; 08-23-2011 at 04:10 PM. Reason: added tech and information

08-23-2011, 03:49 PM	#32
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	A customer brought over a bunch of used parts to sell for him and this motor was in the collection. I checked to see if it would fit in the wraith since it looked about the scale size. After some modification of both the motor and chassis, this bolted to the C.I. wraith electronics tray no problem. I was able to still mount the receiver and the light kit around/under the motor to still keep a clean look. Last edited by Nova's Ark; 08-23-2011 at 04:19 PM. Reason: added tech and information

08-02-2011, 08:13 PM	#21
binaryterror I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,583	Great idea Eddie, looks like another product soon to come from Crawler Innovations!

08-03-2011, 12:17 AM	#22
Bulldog I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Outside DC Posts: 2,997	Subscribed! Great pics! Following this rig for sure!

08-04-2011, 09:34 AM	#23
crawlski Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: anchorage Posts: 395	Your build is looking great so far. I could'nt tell what shock cap mod you were talking about on the front shocks. Any other pics?

08-05-2011, 09:10 PM	#26
Nova's Ark Tire&Foam Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: C.I. Compound, Tyler, Texas Posts: 5,601	Here is a picture of my skid plate. If you focus on the lower links and where they mount to the skid, you'll notice that I removed some of the skid to allow the links room to freely move.

08-05-2011, 10:16 PM	#28
CarterFab Metal shaper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hog Eye, Texas Posts: 3,519	Looking good. Hope you are setting me some parts back. I'm going to swap out the trans in mine as well so I can run the max shafts. Electronics tray is gonna clean up and simplify a lot of peoples builds.

08-23-2011, 03:49 PM	#31
helhedded I wanna be Dave Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,786	I knew you had it in you, I'm proud of you something tells me that it wasn't a difficult task.

08-23-2011, 05:17 PM	#33
Billybongo63 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: USA Posts: 128	Nicely executed! Thanks for testing the CVDs. Diggin' the white delrin links. Noob Q, is there an advantrage to running the shocks with the body on the downside? Oh and I remember White Lightnings, wouldn't it be worth more if the tires were white rubber?

08-23-2011, 05:32 PM	#34
CarterFab Metal shaper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hog Eye, Texas Posts: 3,519	That engine would look so much better in "Southern Comfort". Dang you Eddie. See you tomorrow

08-23-2011, 07:32 PM	#35
Szczerba I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Castle Rock, WA Posts: 8,785	Looking good Eddie. Really liking this build. The tires and motor put it over the top.

08-23-2011, 07:45 PM	#36
paulwf150 Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Texas Posts: 91	Its about time you got that finished. I figured after Gavin drove mine he might get you to finish it up faster. I think we plan on coming to run with you guys this weekend!

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08-24-2011, 06:50 AM	#37
eric113 Moderator Rule Breaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5,970	That disappointing to hear about the cvd's. Build is really shaping up!

08-25-2011, 03:22 PM	#39
rockspider Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 262	Will you be selling the delrin links set? Also available in black, right?

08-25-2011, 03:32 PM	#40
sloyota Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 607	im interested in one of those derlin wraith electronics tray's.can you PM some details..Thank You.Wes

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