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johnnyh66 · 10-05-2011, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LumTheMad

I am having the issue with all stock parts.

well that stinks.

Adamsdad · 10-05-2011, 03:40 PM

Just saw this thread today, I have the same problem and actually wound up stripping the hole on my axle trying to screw together. Ordered a new axle yesterday, guess I will try the dremel technique.

Wavekatcher · 10-05-2011, 05:16 PM

Could this problem be why the stock motor runs so HOT?

johnnyh66 · 10-06-2011, 10:33 PM

Looks like we lost a few post in the rcc crash.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bullitrockcrawl

What puzzle me, is that all 3 were built with the ring gear on the wrong side compare to the manual.

Does everything fit if you run the motor/ring gear on the wrong side?

Can someone post a pic of the dremeled out locker?
What bit did you use?

Die-Laughing · 10-06-2011, 10:58 PM

Im going to take a look at mine a little closer here in the next couple of days and figure out where I need to machine. From the sounds of it, they are saying the problem is where the flat flange on the inside end of the axle shaft acts as a stop against the locker. If I understand correctly, that "stop" is about a 1/16th off location.. So, machining or dremeling deeper into the locker will allow the shaft "stop" to sit further into the locker, thus allowing the lockout to sit flush against the housing..along with everything running smoothly, free of any binding.
Im going to have to look into it.

johnnyh66 · 10-06-2011, 11:04 PM

sounds spot on.
if you get it, gtg at your shop this Sunday!

322 · 10-07-2011, 01:29 AM

I ran into this on my kit build tonight too

Highlucks · 10-07-2011, 02:23 AM

While I know this should not be happening and it is not right. But couldn't you just rotate the lock out by a couple of splines and drill new holes for the screws in the axle casing as a short term fix. It wont be pretty but it should work.

Axial have not come this far by short changing their customers. I have every confidence they will make this right. Thank you axial for you awesome products and the great innovations you have provided to our chosen addiction.

Ernie W · 10-07-2011, 05:52 AM

I also ran into this with my kit last night. It doesn't like much at all, I'm thinking I'll just slightly drill the ring gear hole deeper to accept the axle flange. Hopefully that will do the trick.....

Bullitrockcrawl · 10-07-2011, 05:54 AM

Just grind the flange on the shaft for the inside bearing or diff case and the shaft will go in farther and everything will be fine.

I have run my Wraith like that for long time now and everything is fine for the rear, I just keep blowing front shaft.

Bullit

Losi6821 · 10-07-2011, 07:08 AM

Looks like alot of us are having the same issue....

I started my build last night as well, when I got to the rear axle I ened up removing the shaft stop... I just used a dremel and took about 2min.... quick and easy fix...

Build thread to come....

redbones · 10-07-2011, 12:48 PM

I saw these pics in the kit build blog on Axial's site. you can see the amount of space where the lockout had to move. Mine has about the same space after the mod I did.

And one this pic, if you can photoshop the two shafts and put them together, the flange is machined closer to the end on the short one vs. the long one.

So what's my point? Nothing really, just wanted to spread the word so people won't be baffled when they build their kits with that terrible bind.

PipeDreams · 10-07-2011, 01:20 PM

Every one having this issue it's important to let axial know... they will come out with a fix no doubt... they have a great rep. I"ll just wait till they come out with the fix... I'm in no hurry I'll just build my BJ this weekend instead of my scaler.

The issue with taking the stop off is the axle can now "float" into the diff and it now uses the hex out side to hold it from going to far in. Hex rub a while on the lock out and eventually the plastic will wear away. You're better off doing what Highlucks said and rotate the lockout a few splines and re drilling it if you need to get it going now!

1.55Yota · 10-07-2011, 10:04 PM

Why isn't Axial posting in this thread to acknowledge?

johnnyh66 · 10-08-2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.55Yota

Why isn't Axial posting in this thread to acknowledge?

x2
Axial, when can we get replacements?

highlandcrawler · 10-08-2011, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highlucks

While I know this should not be happening and it is not right. But couldn't you just rotate the lock out by a couple of splines and drill new holes for the screws in the axle casing as a short term fix. It wont be pretty but it should work.

Axial have not come this far by short changing their customers. I have every confidence they will make this right. Thank you axial for you awesome products and the great innovations you have provided to our chosen addiction.

Someone should just make some beefy ones that are the right length hint...hint....poke....poke

PipeDreams · 10-09-2011, 06:51 AM

They know about the issue because I have emailed them... if you have the issue you're best off to email them so they can add you to the list of people they need to send parts too.

LumTheMad · 10-09-2011, 07:51 AM

I'm not sure it's a parts issue. I'm wondering if it is a directions issue. Now that it is together the short side of the FRONT axle is a totaly sloppy fit and the long side has no play. This leads me to think if the center carriers were taken out and installed reverse of the directions, the problem may be solved. Don't care enough to try it though.

In my opinion this is the worst build I have ever done. Maybe I should have gone RTR on this one. Not happy with it.

PipeDreams · 10-09-2011, 12:41 PM

The carrier is designed to work with the gear on either side! It's not an instruction issue. It is clearly a parts issue. The problem had been found and the solution is a new short axle. We are waiting on axial to make and send out new ones

1.55Yota · 10-09-2011, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PipeDreams

The carrier is designed to work with the gear on either side! It's not an instruction issue. It is clearly a parts issue. The problem had been found and the solution is a new short axle. We are waiting on axial to make and send out new ones

Did you get a reply from Axial?

10-07-2011, 12:48 PM	#52
redbones Newbie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: outlands Posts: 27	I saw these pics in the kit build blog on Axial's site. you can see the amount of space where the lockout had to move. Mine has about the same space after the mod I did. And one this pic, if you can photoshop the two shafts and put them together, the flange is machined closer to the end on the short one vs. the long one. So what's my point? Nothing really, just wanted to spread the word so people won't be baffled when they build their kits with that terrible bind. Last edited by redbones; 10-07-2011 at 12:56 PM.

10-09-2011, 07:51 AM	#58
LumTheMad Hell's Gnome Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: I'm mean because you're stupid. Posts: 334	I'm not sure it's a parts issue. I'm wondering if it is a directions issue. Now that it is together the short side of the FRONT axle is a totaly sloppy fit and the long side has no play. This leads me to think if the center carriers were taken out and installed reverse of the directions, the problem may be solved. Don't care enough to try it though. In my opinion this is the worst build I have ever done. Maybe I should have gone RTR on this one. Not happy with it. Last edited by LumTheMad; 10-09-2011 at 07:53 AM.

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10-05-2011, 03:40 PM	#42
Adamsdad Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Farmington/Lakeville Posts: 165	Just saw this thread today, I have the same problem and actually wound up stripping the hole on my axle trying to screw together. Ordered a new axle yesterday, guess I will try the dremel technique.

10-05-2011, 05:16 PM	#43
Wavekatcher Newbie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Santa Cruz Mountains Posts: 45	Could this problem be why the stock motor runs so HOT?

10-06-2011, 10:58 PM	#45
Die-Laughing RCC Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,917	Im going to take a look at mine a little closer here in the next couple of days and figure out where I need to machine. From the sounds of it, they are saying the problem is where the flat flange on the inside end of the axle shaft acts as a stop against the locker. If I understand correctly, that "stop" is about a 1/16th off location.. So, machining or dremeling deeper into the locker will allow the shaft "stop" to sit further into the locker, thus allowing the lockout to sit flush against the housing..along with everything running smoothly, free of any binding. Im going to have to look into it.

10-06-2011, 11:04 PM	#46
johnnyh66 Scale Detail Engineering Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 5,573	sounds spot on. if you get it, gtg at your shop this Sunday!

10-07-2011, 01:29 AM	#47
322 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 412	I ran into this on my kit build tonight too

10-07-2011, 02:23 AM	#48
Highlucks Try to Bend it Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 3,163	While I know this should not be happening and it is not right. But couldn't you just rotate the lock out by a couple of splines and drill new holes for the screws in the axle casing as a short term fix. It wont be pretty but it should work. Axial have not come this far by short changing their customers. I have every confidence they will make this right. Thank you axial for you awesome products and the great innovations you have provided to our chosen addiction.

10-07-2011, 05:52 AM	#49
Ernie W Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mt Vernon Posts: 257	I also ran into this with my kit last night. It doesn't like much at all, I'm thinking I'll just slightly drill the ring gear hole deeper to accept the axle flange. Hopefully that will do the trick.....

10-07-2011, 05:54 AM	#50
Bullitrockcrawl Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 125	Just grind the flange on the shaft for the inside bearing or diff case and the shaft will go in farther and everything will be fine. I have run my Wraith like that for long time now and everything is fine for the rear, I just keep blowing front shaft. Bullit

10-07-2011, 07:08 AM	#51
Losi6821 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Folsom Posts: 215	Looks like alot of us are having the same issue.... I started my build last night as well, when I got to the rear axle I ened up removing the shaft stop... I just used a dremel and took about 2min.... quick and easy fix... Build thread to come....

10-07-2011, 01:20 PM	#53
PipeDreams RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,296	Every one having this issue it's important to let axial know... they will come out with a fix no doubt... they have a great rep. I"ll just wait till they come out with the fix... I'm in no hurry I'll just build my BJ this weekend instead of my scaler. The issue with taking the stop off is the axle can now "float" into the diff and it now uses the hex out side to hold it from going to far in. Hex rub a while on the lock out and eventually the plastic will wear away. You're better off doing what Highlucks said and rotate the lockout a few splines and re drilling it if you need to get it going now!

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10-07-2011, 10:04 PM	#54
1.55Yota Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: IE Posts: 407	Why isn't Axial posting in this thread to acknowledge?

10-09-2011, 06:51 AM	#57
PipeDreams RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,296	They know about the issue because I have emailed them... if you have the issue you're best off to email them so they can add you to the list of people they need to send parts too.

10-09-2011, 12:41 PM	#59
PipeDreams RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,296	The carrier is designed to work with the gear on either side! It's not an instruction issue. It is clearly a parts issue. The problem had been found and the solution is a new short axle. We are waiting on axial to make and send out new ones

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