10-24-2011, 08:35 PM | #101 | |
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My Wraith is intended as an all around play rig, not so much of a crawler (I have a dedicated crawler already). I'd like a bit more wheel speed (~20%) yet still have some low end crawling ability when I want it. To help me with my decision I'm trying to understand how to compare the performance of the Crawlmaster and Torquemaster motors. For example, what would be the difference between a 20t Crawlmaster and 20t Torquemaster motor? Thanks... | |
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10-24-2011, 09:50 PM | #102 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a basement in Kalispell, MT
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Have you tried extremes back to back? Like 0 timing then 40 degress? Have you changed the start power? What c rating is your battery? | |
10-24-2011, 10:08 PM | #103 |
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I put a Titan 21t in with stock esc and run it on 3cell. Was at The Crawl Space the other night and ran a 4cell no problem. Fast too!!! |
10-24-2011, 10:12 PM | #104 | |
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10-25-2011, 08:24 AM | #105 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Montreal, Canada
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does anyone run the stock esc on 3s with a 35t motor? I have a tekin 35t laying here and i think that it would provide more speed and stock than the stock setup on 2s. (of course i would use a BEC not to fry the stock esc) |
10-25-2011, 08:43 AM | #106 |
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Changed my trusty speed600 out for an LRP vector K4 8,5t sensored BL(4300kv)on an AI-ESC. Gearing : 18/80. Pretty Quick. Have to check it with my GPS, but 30 km/h seems about correct. The vector also doesn't get very hot. Works remarkably well. It even survived speeding through large puddles and marshy grassland. Call me surprised. It will crawl....for a bit, but I mostly jump& gun it. It'l do a nice bit of " throttle-bunny-hopping" over sandpiles and rocks. I DID replace the front spool with an HPI differential. It helped tremendously when traversing tight slaloms. It is also more stable on the straights. |
10-25-2011, 08:59 AM | #107 | |
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10-25-2011, 09:28 AM | #108 | |||
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A TorqueMaster sport in 27t or a Pro in 25t would be about the same speed as stock. The Crawlmaster motors and TorqueMaster motors are a bit different in construction, this is why the turns are not at all the same. The 20t CM will be much slower than the 20t TM build. Keeping all else equal between the CM and TM (so comparing a 13t cm to a 27t TM) the CM motor is much smoother on the low end and more efficient at slow speeds. It also has less passive drag brake. The TM build has slightly higher punch off the line and efficiency at top speeds. the TM has better drag brake too. In a Wraith, just decide whether you want punch or if you want super smooth startup. Most feedback I am getting is saying that the CM build is much more suitable since the additional torque and drag of the TM is really not needed for bashing the wraith. | |||
10-25-2011, 10:22 AM | #109 |
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Motor is set to 0* and timing is done through programming. Temps are not Even Luke warm. I will try a better battery tonight and see what the results are. |
10-25-2011, 05:05 PM | #110 |
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10-25-2011, 07:41 PM | #111 |
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@spunky: I used the innards of the diff off my mini-trophy. HPI partnr. 86014 it is a direct fit instead of the spool.(which I, basically wrecked with the VECTOR, the little lugs that keep it from spinning in the diff-housing disintegrated, as it seems to do for many...) Last edited by Jay-Em; 10-25-2011 at 07:45 PM. |
10-29-2011, 12:18 PM | #112 |
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Just ordered the HH torquemaster sport 27t. What timing should I run for stock esc and 2/3s lipo?
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10-29-2011, 03:53 PM | #113 |
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7950's f & r mmp hr alum trans and spur 10.5 turn ballistic 1350 3s/ 2200 4s |
10-29-2011, 06:46 PM | #114 |
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HH brxl HH 20t crawl master team edition 87/16 48p gears CC bec Hitec 7955tg 4000mah 25c 2S traxxas battery Mine stays in the rocks and this set up has been awesome, John your stuff has really impressed me. Last edited by JMiller2065; 10-29-2011 at 06:48 PM. |
10-29-2011, 08:32 PM | #115 |
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mine has a brood 30 t,hi tec 7950 servo,stock esc on 2 cell 7.4 500 mah lipo works awesome
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10-29-2011, 09:27 PM | #116 |
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HH BR-XL HH Crawlmaster 13t 2012 team edition (so smoooooooth) Hitec 7950TH CC BEC 4500mah 6cell NiMH Want to upgrade to LiPo but have heard 2s ain't much different then 6cell and since I'm mainly crawling and trailing I wonder if there is really any need for 3s? Anybody give me any insight to the true difference? |
10-29-2011, 09:55 PM | #117 |
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I bought the kit and haven't settled on a final motor/esc combo so for now my Orion 19T BB motor and XL-5 ESC that used to be in my Slash are installed...and I much admit it actually works well on 2S...only downside is no drag brake and I have to run a 4 AA pack to the receiver since the XL-5 BEC won't handle my ~400oz-in servo. Will probably go with the HH ESC and a HH motor...
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10-30-2011, 12:03 PM | #118 |
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HH 35t tm expert stock esc Robinson racing 87t spur and 16t Pinion (48p) on a 4500 nimh battery. may upgrade to lipo soon.
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10-30-2011, 01:00 PM | #119 | |
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10-30-2011, 08:06 PM | #120 | |
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