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rojo 10-31-2011 07:20 PM

Well, pretty much messed this paint job up... :x

Got the white out I had on the shelf and didn't realize it was paint for plastic, not lexan... so I looked around and found a can of copper that had enough left in it. Should have just ran to Hobby Town and gotten white. It looks pretty much like butt. lol

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I think if I paint the outside of the lexan in white it would look a lot better. Then the copper would look a little like rust when it scratched (maybe). :oops:

burtonkidd 10-31-2011 07:31 PM

Looks really sweet with the copper. I know what you mean i got 2 coats of red on my panels and looked at the can it was for plastic not lexan LMAO!
Im so using those pins for the hood, im running the battery up front and i had to take the screws out all the time, i used zip ties and mocked up some hinges, hey it works :)

rojo 11-01-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by burtonkidd (Post 3357302)
Looks really sweet with the copper. I know what you mean i got 2 coats of red on my panels and looked at the can it was for plastic not lexan LMAO!
Im so using those pins for the hood, im running the battery up front and i had to take the screws out all the time, i used zip ties and mocked up some hinges, hey it works :)

If you have the battery up front, hood pins are the only way to go. "thumbsup"

rojo 11-01-2011 03:55 PM

Got another body on the way today... Lets hope I do better with this one... :ror:

1beatjeep 11-06-2011 07:48 AM

Is it the same body.This thread has more info that i am looking for so it must stay on first page.Great build.

rojo 11-06-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1beatjeep (Post 3366685)
Is it the same body.This thread has more info that i am looking for so it must stay on first page.Great build.

Thanks! It is the same body... "thumbsup"

rojo 11-06-2011 06:20 PM

I got a lot done this past week...

New 7950TH for steering duties up front:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...DSC_0022-3.jpg

VP CMS/Panhard Kit Installed:

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Rear Steer Installed using my old faithful 5955TG:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...DSC_0036-1.jpg

Not much room for the rear servo without removing a few things... I ended up removing the stock lower brace in the rear, cutting the rear legs off of it past the shock mounts and reinstalling. I cut it there so I could retain the front half of the battery box to help reinforce the frame and shock mounts. I will probably end up getting new rear shock mounts to match the front, but until then this should work...

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...DSC_0037-1.jpg

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I have not had a chance to drive it on real terrain yet, but the basement floor test looks promising... :ror: First off, The VP CMS/Panhard kit is absolute quality. Great machine work as usual, and fairly straight forward to install. On my Wraith, which is lowered (and far from stock in general), the panhard bar bottoms on the axle truss before the shocks do. Keep in mind I am not running stock shocks or front shock mounts. I do think I can get a little more clearance freed up with a little more finagling. Beside that, everything works great. I also used VP's new 3/16" steering setup on the front as well to gain a bit of clearance. I moved the older style 1/4" steering setup to the rear.

As far as rear steer goes, I am really excited about it. I played with mixing it with the front servo and just using it independently of the front servo. For now, I am using it independently for a few reasons... First I think I will prefer to drive "default" with front steering only. Second, when I need rear steer, I think I will want it independent of the front. This may change, however as I get more use to it... just need some wheel time with it. So, for now, I set up my dx3r two work two ways with it. One switch is linear, the other is 3-position. That should give me a few options for the time being. As far as maneuverability, it is unbelievable. It will literally turn around a coke can. :shock: (New body isn't installed yet)

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rojo 11-07-2011 04:07 PM

Took a few cell phone video's while I was playing with the rear steer today... forgive the quality... :ror:

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...11107-1719.mp4

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...11107-1721.mp4

JimmyJam 11-09-2011 08:08 PM

Great build and use of parts and ingenuity. I have enjoyed reading your thread and gathering ideas and looking to see WHAT KIND OF MYSTERY TIRES YOU ARE GOING TO RUN!!!!!!!!!!!! hippie :shock: "oh no he didn't!!! "thumbsup" haHA oh yes I did! MmMmHem.

rojo 11-10-2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jayz240 (Post 3373174)
Great build and use of parts and ingenuity.

Thanks!

rojo 11-18-2011 02:17 PM

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h3...11118-1605.jpg

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Danno 11-22-2011 09:22 AM

Looks really good! How do you like the Vanquish servo mount and the pan hard kit. Thanks Danno

rojo 11-22-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 3394385)
Looks really good! How do you like the Vanquish servo mount and the pan hard kit. Thanks Danno

Works really well. Out of the box the panhard bar did bottom on the top of the housing before the shocks did. I am running custom front shock mounts and shocks though (lowered stance). I am working on a way to get the panhard to clear at the moment. Even with the extra work to get it to clear in my application, I would definitely buy again. "thumbsup"

As far as performance wise I also think it really tightened up the front end a bit and the travel seems a lot smoother than it did with a 4-link.

As far as looks, it is one of the best upgrades to do to clean up the front of the Wraith. It also goes a long way in protecting expensive servo's and even bracing the front end a little more.

If you have specific questions I didn't answer, feel free to post them up... "thumbsup"

Danno 11-22-2011 10:28 AM

Thanks for the info that was what I was looking for. Someone that had ran it stock and then added the kit. I do like the idea of protecting the servo and the look the kit provides. I'm probably going to use some Proline Slash shocks and flip the shock mounts to lower the height of my wraith.

joelKID984 11-28-2011 06:39 PM

heyy man,

OHHH, finally got my account activated!!! nice truck man. Dig the 4WS, so gonna do it when i get my wraith. keep it up

kliff_klimber 11-29-2011 01:24 AM

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How is your torque and crawling with the tekin motor I really want one but I need to be able to crawl so I can compete in our ultra 4 crawling events. What motor did you have prior to the tekin? I love my mmp took a little setup but a great speed control!!

rojo 11-29-2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kliff_klimber (Post 3405776)
How is your torque and crawling with the tekin motor I really want one but I need to be able to crawl so I can compete in our ultra 4 crawling events. What motor did you have prior to the tekin? I love my mmp took a little setup but a great speed control!!

I have not ran it yet because my soldering iron bit the dust this past weekend and I haven't gotten a replacement. I will hopefully have an update by this weekend though. "thumbsup"

wrightcs77 11-29-2011 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kliff_klimber (Post 3405776)
How is your torque and crawling with the tekin motor I really want one but I need to be able to crawl so I can compete in our ultra 4 crawling events. What motor did you have prior to the tekin? I love my mmp took a little setup but a great speed control!!


Torque on a Pro4 3300 is unbelievable. Very smooth on low end and way more than enough torque. Speed is also very good.

MLC 11-29-2011 09:48 PM

With the servo being mounted on the chassis does it affect the turning when the wraith is flexed out? Just seems like it would put more stress on the servo when flexed a certain way?

rojo 11-30-2011 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MLC (Post 3407475)
With the servo being mounted on the chassis does it affect the turning when the wraith is flexed out? Just seems like it would put more stress on the servo when flexed a certain way?

There are no ill side effects when using the vanquish CMS (chassis mounted servo) and Panhard kit together... It will turn lock to lock no matter how it flexes. "thumbsup"

The trick to a proper 3-link setup is for the panhard bar (solid mounted to chassis and axle) to travel on the exact same radius as the drag link (servo to knuckle). When the geometry is right there will be no binding and/or "bump steer". Vanquish got their geometry spot on with this kit, and to my knowledge they are the only ones with a full CMS/Panhard kit available at the moment. 8)

Hope this answered your questions!


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