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Adamsdad 11-04-2011 09:54 PM

Any good gearing suggestions for a 21T Torquemaster build on both 2s and 3s?

Harley 11-04-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamsdad (Post 3364755)
Any good gearing suggestions for a 21T Torquemaster build on both 2s and 3s?

That's fast, I'd suggest gearing down to help save the motor. I'd start with something like 84-87 spur and 14-16 pinion.

blacrubi 11-05-2011 11:25 AM

Smoked the stock motor this week and have decided to run the tekin rs pro and tekin pro4 3300kV. with this combo I'm also upgrading the trans gears and the spur/pinion. what would the spur/pinion gearing need to be to keep this motor happy, cool, and alive because that price tag is way up there. :ror: thanks for any input in advance.

War Pig 11-05-2011 12:03 PM

12/54 to 14/58 in 32 pitch works fine with the Pro4. You will have trouble getting it too hot in just about any crawling situation. I've run mine 3/4 throttle for 15 minutes without it getting over 140 degrees.

jaxandjokers 11-05-2011 08:31 PM

Another good combo is the brxl and a cobalt puller 7t running 18 54 gears really good top speed and still climbs like a monkey

Low_S-10 11-05-2011 08:36 PM

how well would a Castle Mamba Max & 5700kv combo with a 2-cell lipo work for crawling and speed? or would the Traxxas Velineon VXL system (the first one they came out with) be better? also what would be a good gear combo to run? i have both of the systems just laying around and was thinking about putting one of the in my wraith.

frdtrkguy 11-05-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Low_S-10 (Post 3366116)
how well would a Castle Mamba Max & 5700kv combo with a 2-cell lipo work for crawling and speed? or would the Traxxas Velineon VXL system (the first one they came out with) be better? also what would be a good gear combo to run? i have both of the systems just laying around and was thinking about putting one of the in my wraith.


You will not be happy with either set-up for crawling.

Harley 11-05-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Low_S-10 (Post 3366116)
how well would a Castle Mamba Max & 5700kv combo with a 2-cell lipo work for crawling and speed? also what would be a good gear combo to run? i have this combo laying around was thinking about putting it on my wraith.

That combo will flat out not work. Only good for speed and it's really just too fast even for that.

Low_S-10 11-06-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Harley (Post 3366305)
That combo will flat out not work. Only good for speed and it's really just too fast even for that.


what about the Traxxas Velineon VXL system?

Stburr91 11-06-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Low_S-10 (Post 3366789)
what about the Traxxas Velineon VXL system?

It's pretty fast also, but there are a few people using them. Of course, it has no drag brake.

craddock35 11-06-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Low_S-10 (Post 3366789)
what about the Traxxas Velineon VXL system?

It has no drag brake, in my opinion it is way to fast for a Wraith and will do nothing but cog on crawling. Read the first post that Harley put up. If you Want to run brushless and do any kind of crawling it needs to be "Sensored" non sensored will just cog on low end.

Harley 11-06-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Low_S-10 (Post 3366789)
what about the Traxxas Velineon VXL system?

I ran it in mine, not a good choice either. You need a sensored system.

ebomb 11-06-2011 07:25 PM

what about this tekin pro4 3300, will i be able to use drag brake and also program it to crawler, forward to reverse? gonna be using with a mmp

Harley 11-06-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ebomb (Post 3367751)
what about this tekin pro4 3300, will i be able to use drag brake and also program it to crawler, forward to reverse? gonna be using with a mmp

It's spendy but a really nice motor. I haven't ran it in mine but have driven another with it. Great motor, only downfall is price.

ebomb 11-06-2011 07:33 PM

so i can run it in crawler mode and it will have a good drag break, thanks

Harley 11-06-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ebomb (Post 3367766)
so i can run it in crawler mode and it will have a good drag break, thanks

I am not 100% sure on the programming that was used but the drag brake was sufficient for crawling.

ebomb 11-06-2011 07:41 PM

thank u, im running a 11t crawl master right now and it seems to get a little hot and i like the top end and low end to so i dont want to change gearing to sacrafice what i have now. im running 18p 80 spur but gonna change to 32p if i buy the pro 4 motor

Rig Rocker 11-07-2011 11:08 AM

I recommend stock gear ratio of 80t / 20t with Team Brood 35t Apocalypse GT w/standup brushes. You will have plenty of part breaking torque, and still have plenty of speed. Great combination for crawling and wheelspeed "thumbsup" If you need more speed the 35t can go to about 23t pinion before starting to reach too hot of temps. That is under G6 type conditions where you mix speed with rock crawling and obstacles.

Of course I recommend using a Holmes waterproof BRXL. Despite what you think of the rivalry between team brood and hh, the motors and esc actually get along very well and are an awesome combination "thumbsup"

Harley 11-07-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rig Rocker (Post 3368653)
I recommend stock gear ratio of 80t / 20t with Team Brood 35t Apocalypse GT w/standup brushes. You will have plenty of part breaking torque, and still have plenty of speed. Great combination for crawling and wheelspeed "thumbsup" If you need more speed the 35t can go to about 23t pinion before starting to reach too hot of temps. That is under G6 type conditions where you mix speed with rock crawling and obstacles.

Of course I recommend using a Holmes waterproof BRXL. Despite what you think of the rivalry between team brood and hh, the motors and esc actually get along very well and are an awesome combination "thumbsup"

I would suggest a faster motor with better reduction really. You would be much less likely to burn it up. With less than 4:1 reduction you are really going to be putting stress on that motor.

strap624 11-07-2011 12:27 PM

I'm running a HH handwound 27t. 17/87 gearing. Was working well till I got my RC4WD Baja claws. With the extra tire height I will need to drop the pinion down to a 14 or 15 tooth.


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