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Old 05-25-2013, 05:54 PM   #1241
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gonna be getting a roc412 soon and was wondering if i need to regear from the 56/14 im running now with my 17.5?
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:01 PM   #1243
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I would keep that gearing.....the roc will handle it just fine.....its a monster!

Im running a 2300 and a 3100...you will love it
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Old 05-25-2013, 06:03 PM   #1244
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Sweet...Thanks alot
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:44 AM   #1245
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What are your thoughts on using a mamba max pro esc with the novak sensored brushless 25.5 motor? Advice on gearing if it would be good set up.

Forgot to mention, my Wraith is heavy and used for G6 style scale runs and occasional low speed technical crawling.

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Old 05-26-2013, 07:59 AM   #1246
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What are your thoughts on using a mamba max pro esc with the novak sensored brushless 25.5 motor? Advice on gearing if it would be good set up.

Forgot to mention, my Wraith is heavy and used for G6 style scale runs and occasional low speed technical crawling.

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MMP is a good call, Novak motors are better than their ESC's. A 25.5 will be painfully slow though. Gearing won't be too hard with that motor due to slow speed. Just check your temps.
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Thanks Harley, that's what I was afraid of with that motor. I'll stick with the esc and wait to go brushless till I get another motor.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:01 PM   #1248
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So I am about to build a wraith based 2.2 rig. I'm putting a new stock axial transmission with Hot Racing Metal 86 tooh spur gear but sure on the pinon gear or motor that I should put in it. I'm using right now a stock axial wraith esc and about put a bec on it just to hold down the 3s.

Any thoughts Harley about what motor combo to run. I am on a budget to one of those 100 plus motors wont work.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:24 PM   #1249
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So I am about to build a wraith based 2.2 rig. I'm putting a new stock axial transmission with Hot Racing Metal 86 tooh spur gear but sure on the pinon gear or motor that I should put in it. I'm using right now a stock axial wraith esc and about put a bec on it just to hold down the 3s.

Any thoughts Harley about what motor combo to run. I am on a budget to one of those 100 plus motors wont work.
The first page pretty much covers that, it has budget options listed.
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I have a traxxas brushed motor out of a slash 2wd think it's a 550. I would like to know would this have enough speed for a mud trail truck. I'm not going to real do a lot of crawling but would like a little torque. All so what gear to use I'm using the 32p gen3 slipper.
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I have a traxxas brushed motor out of a slash 2wd think it's a 550. I would like to know would this have enough speed for a mud trail truck. I'm not going to real do a lot of crawling but would like a little torque. All so what gear to use I'm using the 32p gen3 slipper.
I run a Titan 12T out of a 2wd slash as well.With good results. I run trails and crawl both with mine. I run 87/14 so in 32p that would be like 56/9. I'd say anything just north of 6:1 will be good.It'll have good low end torque and a little get up and go too.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:27 PM   #1252
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I spoke with Michael at Tekin Support and he said the Roc 412 3100 kv is the way to go on the wraith. I'm currently running the RS esc and 13.5 redline. I'm at the point where I want something new, so I'm torn between the Pro4 3300 w/ RX8 and the Roc 3100 and keeping my RS. What do you guys think?

PS running 3s lipo with upgraded drivetrain.
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Could I run a traxxas brushless motor and esc in my axial scx10 with a 56t spur and 9t pinion set up
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There are steel pinions smaller than 16T from RRP, they just aren't hardened. And my honest opinion is that I'd rather use a softer pinion instead of something super hard, because wearing out a $5 pinion sounds a lot better than wearing out a $40 spur.

The 13T Crawlmaster is close to a traditional 3-slot 27T so even if you keep the same gearing you should pick up some wheelspeed. Most important will be to keep your eye on motor temps because a 13T Crawlmaster on 3s seems like a pretty hot brushed setup.

Hallo, I tested the 88/13 (48p) (steel spur and alu pinion)
motor temp and speed ar both more than ok

Unfortunately after approx 2,5 hours of fairly tough run I spotted the pinion already started wearing out, I guess it will still hold an hour or so...not more, so I am definitely needing a Steel Pinion, any idea about where to find Steel pinions 13T and 14T?

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Hallo, I tested the 88/13 (48p) (steel spur and alu pinion)
motor temp and speed ar both more than ok

Unfortunately after approx 2,5 hours of fairly tough run I spotted the pinion already started wearing out, I guess it will still hold an hour or so...not more, so I am definitely needing a Steel Pinion, any idea about where to find Steel pinions 13T and 14T?

thanks a lot
Search for a hardened pinion. Hot Racing makes them I know.
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Search for a hardened pinion. Hot Racing makes them I know.

Thanks Harley, just found them...;)

would you suggest to lube the pinion and spur gear as they are both made of steel? or is it ok to leave them dry?

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Thanks Harley, just found them...;)

would you suggest to lube the pinion and spur gear as they are both made of steel? or is it ok to leave them dry?

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I don't because I don't want my slipper getting slick. I just leave them dry.
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I don't because I don't want my slipper getting slick. I just leave them dry.
Good point! I'll leave it dry...

BTW I read about you having to tighten the slipper at the last G6 comp, as I experienced the same while testing the RRP slipper, is there a 'method' to determine the right tightness? Or is it a trial and error process?

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Good point! I'll leave it dry...

BTW I read about you having to tighten the slipper at the last G6 comp, as I experienced the same while testing the RRP slipper, is there a 'method' to determine the right tightness? Or is it a trial and error process?

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Trial and error is all.
Got it! The more I tune my rig the more the fun, thanks for all your support and patience....




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