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Old 11-15-2011, 01:07 PM   #1
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what would you upgrade first? Ive got $50 bucks to spend after getting my wraith and im not sure what would be the best to get. Thanks
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Knuckles and Steering Link
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:22 PM   #3
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I would disagree. Grab universals, the dog bones popping out are the cause of most broken knuckles.
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Links are what broke first on mine.

If you have the RTR Wraith, I say make your own links out of 8-32 threaded rod and 1/4" brake line with jato rod ends, or use Revo pushrods like this guy.

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I would disagree. Grab universals, the dog bones popping out are the cause of most broken knuckles.

Will those work with STRC knuckles and C hubs?
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universals. The kit wraiths never break, the RTR's do all the time. ive yet to have a problem with mine, other then smapping a hex wheel pin.
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I would disagree. Grab universals, the dog bones popping out are the cause of most broken knuckles.
Or the is it knuckles and steering links flexing enough to allow the dogbones to pop out? Chicken or the egg? My 2nd set of bones still live after knuckle, chub and steering link upgrade.
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Or the is it knuckles and steering links flexing enough to allow the dogbones to pop out? Chicken or the egg? My 2nd set of bones still live after knuckle, chub and steering link upgrade.
Not really, the knuckles can still steer further than the dog bones allow. So if you don't do universals then you'll still oversteer and break dog bones.
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Not really, the knuckles can still steer further than the dog bones allow. So if you don't do universals then you'll still oversteer and break dog bones.
Your experience, not mine. The flexy tierod can still allow massive toe in beyond the universals limits. All needs replaced for durability in my eyes.
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Your experience, not mine. The flexy tierod can still allow massive toe in beyond the universals limits. All needs replaced for durability in my eyes.
You'd be surprised what a stock,rtr wraith will go through with JUST universal's.. I agree with Harley on this one. Universal's.
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Your experience, not mine. The flexy tierod can still allow massive toe in beyond the universals limits. All needs replaced for durability in my eyes.
The difference is the when a dog bone oversteers it puts a large force on the C and knuckle by coming out of the cup and pressing on the opposite side. Causing the hole on the top of the knuckle to brake most commonly. If knuckles are replaced, it's a toss up between breaking a C or a dog bone. If you're only spending $50 the universals are likely to keep you running longer without breakage.
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Thanks for all the info guys!
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Will those work with STRC knuckles and C hubs?
I am assuming they will?
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I've gotta agree with Harley. I replaced the C-Hubs and knuckles first, tie rod drag link second, and still had dogbone issues. The universals were out of stock everywhere for a while, so I couldn't get my hands on them for a while.
When I finally got them, most of the problems stopped. much better steering control, zero problems with the front end since
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You'd be surprised what a stock,rtr wraith will go through with JUST universal's.. I agree with Harley on this one. Universal's.

second thing to buy delrin rounnd. at a manufacturing shop. packageof jato rod ends and some allthread or screws. delrin is cheap. can be shaped into steering stuff or sus. links.
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second thing to buy delrin rounnd. at a manufacturing shop. packageof jato rod ends and some allthread or screws. delrin is cheap. can be shaped into steering stuff or sus. links.
I would go a much much different way. Delrin is alright but way to flexible for long links. Not as much as the stockers but I don't like to use them for links any more. Also, I always skip using Jato ends when I can. They break much easier then a shorter Revo end.

I would go with 8-32 all-thread, Stainless tubing and Revo ends when making homemade links.
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anything else around $15 i should get?
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well i got aluminum knuckles and universals.. thanks guys!
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hey guys, im installing the wraith universals but i cant get the dogbones out. They are free (out 90%) but i think the bearing is stopping them from coming all the way out.. how do i get these out? Thanks
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hey guys, im installing the wraith universals but i cant get the dogbones out. They are free (out 90%) but i think the bearing is stopping them from coming all the way out.. how do i get these out? Thanks
You have to remove one of the link mount screws on each side of the axle tubes.
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