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03-17-2014, 10:07 PM | #1 |
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| Harley's Wraith Moonbuggy I have been wanting to build a moonbuggy for awhile, literally years actually. Recently Tedo started a cone dodger (1:1 comp rig) build thread and it got me thinking more on the subject. I recently got a new TIG and I've been ITCHING for something to build. I have plenty of projects that need to get done of course but sometimes I just want to work on something new Last year I competed in WERock Grand Nationals in the Stock Mod class. One of the unlimited teams out there was Justin Hall with Team Rock Hard. I talked with Justin and shot some video at the event. Their car was originally the Campbell moonbuggy that ran many of the XRRA events back in the day. Seemed like a great car to model a build after! Pretty insane little climb, I'm sure the pucker factor would be QUITE high. Last edited by Harley; 03-17-2014 at 10:09 PM. |
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03-17-2014, 10:08 PM | #2 |
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Videos: Video 1 - Introduction Last edited by Harley; 03-19-2014 at 08:58 AM. |
03-17-2014, 10:08 PM | #3 |
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03-17-2014, 10:08 PM | #4 |
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| Re: Harley's Wraith Moonbuggy
The new TIG is the Razorweld 160P. It's a high frequency start machine that also has the pulse function. I've only got a few chances to weld with the machine so far and absolutely love it. Really looking forward to building a full chassis with this machine. |
03-17-2014, 10:15 PM | #5 |
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I called Justin and asked him to shoot some pictures for me. It was nice to work right with him to make sure the details of the chassis were right. I started as I normally do lately, with a CAD design. I scaled the chassis off the Wraith wheelbase and skid plate. I did have to stretch the center section a little to cover the skid adequately. After that, the chassis came out to be right at 1:7 scale. It took 3 shots before I was happy with the design and Justin was finished telling me details I had missed The top design is the final model. Although it will still require some additional bracing as well as panhard mounts and such. |
03-17-2014, 10:24 PM | #6 |
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Justin is a cool kid. Look forward to this build. Glad to be involved with him as one of his sponsors. And I just got a set of 38.5 Falken stickies today.
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03-17-2014, 10:24 PM | #7 |
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From the CAD model, I remove each tube and create easy to follow templates. These allow me to cut the tubes to the right length, bend them to exactly how I had them drawn, and match the angles when constructing. It's almost cheating! |
03-17-2014, 10:36 PM | #8 | |
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So what are your stickies going on? I've seen them on Justin's and Matt Messer's rigs so far. Looks like they worked well for Justin at the first event. | |
03-17-2014, 11:00 PM | #9 |
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| Re: Harley's Wraith Moonbuggy
Very cool. Thats a nice buggy. The fun part is trying to hide a axial trans and electronics in one with a 3D interior. |
03-18-2014, 06:48 AM | #10 |
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03-18-2014, 07:14 AM | #11 |
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| Re: Harley's Wraith Moonbuggy
Sa weeet! I just sold cone dodger to BigBaller, because my heart is to make an 4WS Unlimited rig instead of the Promod. I have my Elmo buggy, but it's more of an XRRA short Course racer by design. Are you doing CMS? on this? Will you be providing the pdf of the schematics like previous builds? I am really torn between the old school cool of the campbell buggies, and Jesse Haines's Unlimited. Very cool! |
03-18-2014, 07:21 AM | #12 |
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So you did get something done this weekend... Clock is ticking.... |
03-18-2014, 08:22 AM | #13 | |
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| Re: Harley's Wraith Moonbuggy Quote:
PDF template is hosted on my site now. It is labeled as a DRAFT until I actually build one and test that it works. Link to the templates: Unlimited Moonbuggy | Harley Designs I've always been obsessed with the Campbell buggies. I think the first offset one was actually called Tiny (not a campbell) but I know them mostly from the CE crew. Jesse's old unlimited has a cool style too, but I have to have to build one of these, just have to do it. | |
03-18-2014, 08:23 AM | #14 |
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03-18-2014, 08:54 AM | #15 |
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Cant wait to see this take shape! If you need any other info Josh. Let me know!
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03-18-2014, 10:02 AM | #16 | |
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They are going on my 2013 JKU. | |
03-19-2014, 10:48 AM | #17 |
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Started to throw some rod at the project. Local supplier only had 1/4" chromoly tubing so I went in the direction of availability and used my standard 3/16" cold rolled. I thought since this thing being all kinds of out of square it would be much easier to fabricate. WRONG. Making the roof lines match up while being so drastically different from one side to the next was a HUGE pain in the ass. I ended up scrapping the entire first attempt at the chassis. After the second shot, this is where I'm at. Pretty happy with the current status of the chassis and it matches the templates very closely. There is also a video link in the 2nd post. |
03-19-2014, 11:22 AM | #18 |
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Here's a few more angle around the top half. Quick relative size check. |
03-19-2014, 04:53 PM | #19 |
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I bet this will come out looking smaller then a Wraith. By the looks of it (in your vid), it may be the same width, but it is shorter (which will make the wheel base shorter), and I bet the cage will be lower, giving it that low-slung comp stance. Run droop, and there ya go! Also, you should do the battery tray behind the cab with a "2-D" motor cover (like you again mentioned in the vid). This what I did with my 2.2 comp buggy: . Works pretty good at concealing. I'm sure with that printer, you could make even a better battery tray cover... Glad you are doing this man! |
03-19-2014, 05:27 PM | #20 | |
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I do plan to run the battery in the rear in the area of the motor cradle on the 1:1. Still lots of details to go and if I can get it built to a roller soon I can vet those things through quickly. | |
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