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Old 04-06-2014, 11:41 AM   #21
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I am going to try the ROC412 3100KV this time. The Pro4 3300KV was OK. It's biggest downfall to me is the 5mm pinion which limit you to 11 tooth pinion. The 412 has a standard 3mm shaft which makes gearing down even easier.




If it's electronic and going into a scaler, it must be dipped in:



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Old 04-06-2014, 11:49 AM   #22
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On to the axles next. Here is a picture of the previous front Axial HD OD gear Set. Both the ring and pinion were properly shimmed using Kyosho steel shims. If you look closely at the picture, you will see the teeth on the pinion are fine. It's only the ring gear that sustained damage. The AX30401 gear set has the worst gear mesh of the three gear sets available. It also has the worst gearing for a rock crawler @ 2.57. That gearing, coupled with poor gearing at the trans, coupled with 2S voltage = creates a lot of unnecessary issues.


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This thread is pure crawler porn so far. Looking forward to more.
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Old 04-07-2014, 08:16 AM   #24
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Nice tuber example....bump to top.


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I purchased this rig from Szczerba last year. He has a detailed build thread here:
Szczerba's Scramblin' KOH

I mailed my wraith axles, scx trans and electronics from the White Lightning Wraith to Szczerba. The build thread on that wraith is here:
--- Crawler Innovations "White Lightning Wraith" ---

Szczerba installed the parts and mailed me the rig. All it needed was wheels & tires, a battery and some minor tweaking. It's been to a number of National & local G6's. It's also been used as a test truck for Crawler Innovations products. The axles have seen better days, and the truck is due for a complete rebuild. I figured now would be a good time to create a build thread and share the truck.

















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When you waterproofed the motor, did you just dip the entire thing in that cup if corrosionX? Or did you remove things that can't be seen in the pic?
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:57 AM   #26
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this rig looks bad ass! i would make it like a scale rockbouncer with a 35t motor for a little speed but still able to crawl. put some TTC baja claws on it aswell and some currie axles by vanquish.
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:01 PM   #27
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This thread is pure crawler porn so far. Looking forward to more.
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Sick rig!

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When you waterproofed the motor, did you just dip the entire thing in that cup if corrosionX? Or did you remove things that can't be seen in the pic?
Yes.

Remove motor from box, insert / submerge in Corrosion X. I do all my electronics that way.


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this rig looks bad ass! i would make it like a scale rockbouncer with a 35t motor for a little speed but still able to crawl. put some TTC baja claws on it aswell and some currie axles by vanquish.
Thanks, but if I wanted a rock bouncer I would have built one. The brushless ROC 412 motor will put a 35T to shame. I'm sponsored by Pitbull, and I would not reduce my performance by switching to a baja claw. This rig was built around AR60 / Wraith axles from the beginning. Switching to Currie axles would be a pain in the ass and too trendy for me. I'm perfectly happy with the basic AR60's. Function OVER Form for me
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Wow I love this rig!!! Where can I get those pinion bushing at
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:14 AM   #29
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this thing is insane. very acute attention to details
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I fell behind on updates. The rig is up and running again and headed to St Louis with me for the RECON G6. I'm going to post some random pics I took while finishing it.

First up, when using aluminum axle housings with aluminum C's, they have a bad tendency to come loose. I have learned to use epoxy to keep the C's in place. Gasoline will break down the epoxy if they ever need to be removed.


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The DMG AR60 skids arrived in time and look great!




Ready for some competition action:



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Old 04-12-2014, 12:47 PM   #33
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Just finished the day stage of the Recon G6 St Louis. Basically a two hour long course. I was lucky to finish. The hardened steel revo spur gear ate the 9tooth pinion that apparently wasn't hardened:




...Sent from the RECON G6 in St Louis...
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wow...i would say you were lucky for sure! But a very nice job on the rig! how did you place so far?
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I just can't get over how awesome the chassis (as well as the rest of the RC) looks! It isn't too often you see a pinion gear strip out.

Keep at it, Eddie!
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lol, and here i was thinking that this drive line will be bullet proof.
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Nice rig Eddie!
I will look for updates.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:14 PM   #38
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Great looking rig Eddie! You incorporated some really well thought out parts. It's a bummer to hear that about your outputs though - those are my favorite and I run them on almost everything.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:19 PM   #39
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Thank you for all the kinds words guys.


Update on this build:


If you have ever been separated from your rc group, while in the woods at night, with nothing but the lights of your RC car to use, and you had to stop driving the rc car and carry it, to make sure you have enough battery to power the light to illuminate your hike back (this happened to me)...

or

Attended a RECON G6, forgot your personal head lamp, got separated once again from your RC group, and your trying to find course flags from 30 feet away in the dark using only your standard pathetic RC car lights (this also happened to me)...

Then I highly recommend:




I went ahead and bought (Yes I paid for them, I am not sponsored) four MORE light bars at the RECON G6 in Missouri. This was the second rig to receive new light bars. I had to reroute the existing leds and decide how to best install the new light bars.

Although these light bars are spendy, as the saying goes... you get what you pay for and these MORE LED light bars are top quality.

Wow what a difference! Especially over the old set up. I'm only running them on 9 volts! They can handle 12.6 volts

Couple pics out on the rocks with the bars installed but not turned on:




Re-purposing of a Texas plate and re-purposing the two old headlights to now be rock lights:


The lights turned on:


One of the old roof lights was re-purposed as a motor compartment light:


The other two roof light wires were attached to LED light tubes from hobby partz and run under the floor board between the skid:


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Old 05-27-2014, 08:37 PM   #40
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Awesome rig

Glad the servo arms are now not going to take a beating
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