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Old 05-04-2014, 07:58 PM   #21
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Thanxs....

Just had a good break-in run with the new parts and gearing. The new Vanquish axles and pumpkin covers have their battle scars now!

The Wraith crawled very good before these recent mods, now it crawls incredibly well....at the loss of flat out speed though. For the first time ever, I heard the slipper clutch engage, which means I'm obviously running more torque through the drive-train. This is with Axial 27t motor and 14t/87t gearing and 2S power. I may try out the 14t pinion for shits and giggles to see how it performs from there. I'm assuming it will run even slower on the top end with 14t pinion...correct? May even go out and get myself a 3S battery to see what happens!

The next upgrade is going to be lockers front and rear.....just too much slop with the stock lock!!! Any suggestions? Sounds like the HR is a decent one from what I have been reading.

Thanxs....Yes, I am blown away by the abilities of this machine. Couldn't be happier....well, more new parts always makes you happier!!!!

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Old 06-07-2014, 07:18 PM   #22
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Few changes and upgrades to the Wraith lately....Filled the transmission up with Robinson racing gears and bolted up a Traxxas 21T Titan motor. Gears are now 17t / 87t. Also changed out the OEM front and rear lockers with Locked UP FI Spools and threw in a pair of Axial Universal axles; zero slop in the drive-line now.

Going out for a big run tomorrow and hopefully I will get some good pics.
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:21 AM   #23
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Thanxs. I will find out tomorrow. I had the Axial 27t motor with the same gearing and the Wraith performed incredibly well; lots of wheel speed and climbed awesome. Hopefully the Traxxas motor impresses me. I'll let ya know.
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Old 06-08-2014, 02:46 PM   #24
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A fellow Victorian! Wahoo!

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Old 06-08-2014, 11:27 PM   #25
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Well......I have to say, the Traxxas 21t Titan motor was awesome (geared at 17t / 87t, 3S LIPO). Did a long three + hour run up Mt. Doug today with some very knarly climbs and the motor was exceptional. Tons of wheel speed and extremely impressive low speed torque for slow climbing. I'm gonna get the same spare motor for back-up now...it's that good....and not to mention fairly inexpensive.

With all the mods performed to my Wraith ($$$$), it was absolutely bulletproof today. Quite a number of other rigs had breakdowns today, but mine was good to go; and she took a good bashing!

MtDoug_6_Jun_14_16

MtDoug_6_Jun_14_11

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Old 06-09-2014, 05:49 AM   #26
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Thanxs.

Here's where I bought the skids:

Aluminum Axial Deadbolt Differential Protector Wraps Around Pinion | eBay

I decided I wanted to change up the look of my Wraith today and decided I would perform a "fastback" mod of my own design.

I used the the stock Axial upper links and some various sizes of aluminum tube. It was important to me that the roof section was still able to fit, so the notches in the "B" pillar cross bar were extended back the width of the link end so the upper link end would pass over the crossbar notch to maintain the stock width. An aluminum rear shock tower brace was fabricated and aluminum spacer tubes placed over the cross bar to keep the modified axle links from moving side to side.

A rear frame section was fabricated from aluminum tube and Axial link ends to run all four link ends to one central location, again using aluminum spacers to keep the ends from moving side to side.

The whole rear end fastback mod is very sturdy and I'm positive it will last the torture tests of any potential rollovers.

Whatcha think?






Hi,

( First sorry my very bad english...google translate bad )

The side show a little bit special, but the eye to get used to
But I see the back of the picture sure to >> be a very sturdy and a strong !!

I see some youtube video how the wraith stock the rear shock mooring part of the groan / jump ! Not good. You custom be certainly very good !

Me coming wraith soon...Can I copy your idea ? Maybe make to do the same style.
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:54 AM   #27
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Thanxs...absolutely, feel free to use my design. It works very well and is very strong.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:40 PM   #28
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So many questions :

•Do you like those lower links?

•Are you still just running the Axial Ax-2 ESC with the Titan motor? Does the motor bolt right onto the stock motor plate? Does the motor have a lot of low end power or is it mainly a speedy motor?

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Old 06-12-2014, 12:39 AM   #29
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The lower links look good, but that's about it. I'm going to be ordering a full set of VP links.

Yes, stock ESC with CC BEC. One link mount needs to be trimmed to fit the larger motor in. I also shortened the motor shaft. The motor is a great balance of low end grunt and wheel speed (with gearing I am using).
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Old 06-13-2014, 12:29 PM   #30
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Thank you....If you are referring to the Shaver Shop, yes, they had a couple of pairs on hand.

I just joined the Victoria Scale 4x4 Facebook page and am hoping to meet up with some folks for a crawling day. It's fun with my young son, but would like to get out and really test the limits of this Wraith.....and maybe break some parts so I can get better ones!!! lol
I like just from this thread there is about 4 ppl from the island! i'm on the FB group as well, just picked up a wraith roller and waiting for parts to come! will have to go out for a crawl when mines alive! :p i'm just in Cobble Hill but usually come down to Vic to crawl my Summit!

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Old 06-13-2014, 09:12 PM   #31
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Arg... This is the time where I wish I had Facebook. Can someone send me the link? Or just tell me when they usually get together?
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Old 06-13-2014, 09:44 PM   #32
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I like just from this thread about 4 ppl from the island! i'm on the FB group as well, just picked up a wraith roller and waiting for parts to come! will have to go out for a crawl when mines alive! :p i'm just in Cobble Hill but usually come down to Vic to crawl my Summit!
Got your like, I don't have FaceBook, I live by Kangaroo Rd.
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Old 06-13-2014, 11:01 PM   #33
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If you think you are having fun now put 4WS on it and let the real fun begin.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:12 AM   #34
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Got your like, I don't have FaceBook, I live by Kangaroo Rd.
I know where that road is! haha must be some fun rc'ing around there! i've been down to Frog Stompers and Wheeled my 1:1 and my summit down there :p

but unfortunately they have the FB group closed so you have to be on Facebook and get invited, but once i get my Rigs alive we will have to go out for sure!
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:03 PM   #35
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That's one hot wraith. Sweet photo's.

The wraith springs work well on many shocks.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:57 PM   #36
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Just search "Victoria Scale 4x4" on Facebook and request acceptance.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:38 PM   #37
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Hello bilinvic,

i ask also you:
How you have istallated:
Wraith car battery the front side ?

Your ESC behing and ( i also put ) suffice ESC cable length in front ? OR need extend ESC cable ?
If you have got to extend ESC cable, what cable you use ?
i make privat email rear custom.
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:11 PM   #38
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Not required to tell, maybe i will now desing own system.
Sorry my the previous question > battery....
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:41 PM   #39
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A couple more new mods....

Gear Head 2.2 Five Star EZ-Loc Beadlock Wheels
Vanquish Products Wraith 8 pc 3/16 Titanium Link Set

The Gear Head wheels are beautifully done and the term EZ-Loc is no joke, it was a piece of cake to mount the wheels to the Pitbull Rock Beast II tires. I was running with the Axial Rockster beadlock wheels and have no complaints with them...I just wanted something with some more weight to them without having to add wheel weights.

Axial Rockster wheels w/o any added weight - 50g
Axial Rockster wheels w/ weight that I had added - 94g
Gear Head wheels (with all hardware) - 150g
Gear Head wheels mounted to the Pitbull tire - 315g

I was using the Axial upper aluminum links and Integy Machined Lower Suspension Links (Anodized Green). Nothing wrong with the Axial links, they are going on my son's Deadbolt. Can't say the same for the crappy Integy links, the pressed in ball retainers were falling out and they were binding. Yes, they looked good, but that is it!!!! Lesson learned.

I currently have a pair of Beet Tubes enroute.

I was just about to order the Tekin ROC 412 BL motor and MMP, but on the same day, the Yeti was announced. I pre-ordered the Yeti and that will be my crazy rock basher project. I'm going to keep the Wraith as a brushed powered rock crawler.

Now, here is my total mod list....mostly so I can keep track of it all!

HiTEC HS-7955TG Digital Servo
HiTEC Machined Aluminum Servo Arm (Anodized Blue)
Castle BEC
Team EnrichPower LIPO 2S 6000 50C Battery
Team EnrichPower LIPO 3S 3300 30C Battery (x2)
Traxxas 21T Titan motor
MIP Drive-shafts
Robinson Racing Hardened Steel Idler Gear
Robisnon Racing One Piece Steel Bottom Gear
Robinson Racing 17t Pinion
Axial 87T Spur
Pitbull Rock Beast II Komp Kompound 2.2 Tires
Pitbull Dos Piezas Kompilation 2.2 Foams
Gear Head 2.2 Five Star EZ-Loc Beadlock Wheels
Vanquish AR60 OCP Machined Link Mounts Grey (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Axle CNC Machined Aluminum Grey (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Differential Cover Silver (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith HD Aluminum Truss Silver (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Knuckled, C-Hubs & Lockouts Stage 1 Kit Silver/Grey
Vanquish Wraith Tie Rod Titanium
Vanquish Wraith Titanium 3/16 Drag Link
Vanquish Products Wraith 8 pc 3/16 Titanium Link Set
Axial AR60 OCP Universal Axles
Locked UP FI Spools (Front & Rear)
RC Screwz Wraith Stainless Steel Screw Kit
Traxxas Battery Hold Down Kit (Hood Pins x2)
G Made 103 Piggyback Shocks
Battery Relocated to Front
ESC Relocated to Rear
Rear Upper Shock Mounts Flipped
Axle Shock/Suspension Lower Link Mounts Flipped
Fabricated Rear Aluminum Body Panel
Fabricated FastBack Mod
Bumper Spacers

Here's a few pics:

Wraith_28

Wraith_27

Wraith_26

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Old 06-21-2014, 01:18 PM   #40
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A couple more new mods....

Gear Head 2.2 Five Star EZ-Loc Beadlock Wheels
Vanquish Products Wraith 8 pc 3/16 Titanium Link Set

The Gear Head wheels are beautifully done and the term EZ-Loc is no joke, it was a piece of cake to mount the wheels to the Pitbull Rock Beast II tires. I was running with the Axial Rockster beadlock wheels and have no complaints with them...I just wanted something with some more weight to them without having to add wheel weights.

Axial Rockster wheels w/o any added weight - 50g
Axial Rockster wheels w/ weight that I had added - 94g
Gear Head wheels (with all hardware) - 150g
Gear Head wheels mounted to the Pitbull tire - 315g

I was using the Axial upper aluminum links and Integy Machined Lower Suspension Links (Anodized Green). Nothing wrong with the Axial links, they are going on my son's Deadbolt. Can't say the same for the crappy Integy links, the pressed in ball retainers were falling out and they were binding. Yes, they looked good, but that is it!!!! Lesson learned.

I currently have a pair of Beet Tubes enroute.

I was just about to order the Tekin ROC 412 BL motor and MMP, but on the same day, the Yeti was announced. I pre-ordered the Yeti and that will be my crazy rock basher project. I'm going to keep the Wraith as a brushed powered rock crawler.

Now, here is my total mod list....mostly so I can keep track of it all!

HiTEC HS-7955TG Digital Servo
HiTEC Machined Aluminum Servo Arm (Anodized Blue)
Castle BEC
Team EnrichPower LIPO 2S 6000 50C Battery
Team EnrichPower LIPO 3S 3300 30C Battery (x2)
Traxxas 21T Titan motor
MIP Drive-shafts
Robinson Racing Hardened Steel Idler Gear
Robisnon Racing One Piece Steel Bottom Gear
Robinson Racing 17t Pinion
Axial 87T Spur
Pitbull Rock Beast II Komp Kompound 2.2 Tires
Pitbull Dos Piezas Kompilation 2.2 Foams
Gear Head 2.2 Five Star EZ-Loc Beadlock Wheels
Vanquish AR60 OCP Machined Link Mounts Grey (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Axle CNC Machined Aluminum Grey (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Differential Cover Silver (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith HD Aluminum Truss Silver (front and rear)
Vanquish Wraith Knuckled, C-Hubs & Lockouts Stage 1 Kit Silver/Grey
Vanquish Wraith Tie Rod Titanium
Vanquish Wraith Titanium 3/16 Drag Link
Vanquish Products Wraith 8 pc 3/16 Titanium Link Set
Axial AR60 OCP Universal Axles
Locked UP FI Spools (Front & Rear)
RC Screwz Wraith Stainless Steel Screw Kit
Traxxas Battery Hold Down Kit (Hood Pins x2)
G Made 103 Piggyback Shocks
Battery Relocated to Front
ESC Relocated to Rear
Rear Upper Shock Mounts Flipped
Axle Shock/Suspension Lower Link Mounts Flipped
Fabricated Rear Aluminum Body Panel
Fabricated FastBack Mod
Bumper Spacers

Here's a few pics:





Looking so sick man! almost got all my parts in to make my wraith alive! :P
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