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07-14-2014, 06:10 PM | #21 |
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Like everyone says it comes down to driving style. I destroyed most every part on my wraith with my pro4 and now the whole driveline is upgraded. Bombproof trans, MIPS, hd gears and lockers, axle shafts, alum axle housings, suspension links, etc, etc,etc. drive it right it will be ok. Drive it like me and get ready to spend some cash. ;) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Last edited by Tmaxxed; 07-14-2014 at 06:13 PM. |
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07-14-2014, 06:10 PM | #22 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: canada
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| Re: Roc 412 in wraith compared to brushed
I will be trying that motor when my handwound tekin goes up in smoke as well,seems pretty good and strong!
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07-15-2014, 11:31 AM | #23 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2013 Location: Somewhere in space
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| Re: Roc 412 in wraith compared to brushed
I heard that the roc 412 isn't that great overall, even with a RS and the Hotwire, it is really "jumpy" but thats just what I heard. Now say if you want a brushed system for your wraith then a Holmes Hobby 13t crawlmaster with a BR-XL would be boss especially on 3s. It has great torque and enough wheel speed.
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07-15-2014, 11:50 AM | #24 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Well thanks for the input everybody, right now I'm kinda leaning more towards a lower turn brushed motor but I can't get onto Holmeshobbies.com for some reason, anybody else having that problem ?
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07-15-2014, 03:07 PM | #25 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2013 Location: Somewhere in space
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| Re: Roc 412 in wraith compared to brushed That's strange, I just ordered a motor and esc from Holmes Sunday..is your internet working? I have no clue...that was just a guess.
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07-15-2014, 03:14 PM | #26 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Nope internets fine i honestly have no clue, I tried it on the desktop on Firefox chrome and safari and then tried on chrome and safari on my mobile and nothing worked, I'm very frustrated, I WANT TO GIVE THEM MY MONEY !¡!
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07-15-2014, 03:34 PM | #27 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Ohhh for some reason the computers blocking it saying there's a very high risk of malware
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07-15-2014, 04:23 PM | #28 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2013 Location: Somewhere in space
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| Re: Roc 412 in wraith compared to brushed
Ahh okay, well good luck in whatever you're going to buy. Haha that's funny, you must have strong security on that computer because on mine I have WebBroot and does great! Anyways have fun lol.
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07-15-2014, 04:28 PM | #29 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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I have webroot too, at the moment it's acting like an overprotective parent
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07-15-2014, 04:29 PM | #30 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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And thanks for the tips too
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07-15-2014, 04:37 PM | #31 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: May 2013 Location: Somewhere in space
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07-15-2014, 04:43 PM | #32 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Hey, I know this is off topic but do you happen to know if you have to have a certain amount of posts before you can upload a profile pic ?
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07-15-2014, 07:19 PM | #33 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pasadena
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I wouldn't go brushed
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07-15-2014, 07:21 PM | #34 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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For the wraith?! Why not
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07-15-2014, 08:14 PM | #35 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pasadena
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Well a low turn brushed motor is fun and all, but if your hill climbing, they'll overheat, and if you get dirt in them it's the end of their lives
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07-15-2014, 08:16 PM | #36 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Well I'm mostly going to be trailing and slow crawling so a brushed motor is pretty much perfect, but if I ever change my mind I'll just swap it out with a brushless
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07-15-2014, 08:42 PM | #37 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pasadena
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I don't know who persuaded you into thinking you can't crawl with a sensored tekin motor, but i can out crawl brushed motors, then go fun 25mph down the street
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07-15-2014, 09:00 PM | #38 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: matwin territory
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Well then apparently I got some misinformation, I knew they couldn't crawl like a brushed motor but I thought they had at least some crawling capability
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07-15-2014, 09:05 PM | #39 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Relaxo. California. USA. Earth.
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Many can't feel the difference in startup between brushed and sensored brushless, but when you pull the trigger... You'll know. Some quality handwound motors can compare to 2pole brushless motors, 4pole motors however blow anything brushed outta the water.
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07-15-2014, 09:05 PM | #40 | |
RCC Addict Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Garage!!!
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| Re: Roc 412 in wraith compared to brushed Quote:
GUARANTEED. I have owned or still own most listed above & brushless is a beast no doubt but no comparison to the brushed in pure crawlers! Running the HH 13t 500 puller motors in xr & 35t pro with amazing startup with tons of torque which no brushless motor can have the startup & smooth throttle these have. The wraith is better IMO with brushless setup considering it's a rock "racer" & it want crawl as good as scx,ax10 based rigs. | |
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