Pan hard steering link problem

[Troublekitty]

So I recently installed the pan hard kit but now the servo steering rod flexes turning right



Full throw left



Full throw right is the issue



I've seen pics of two servo links and bent servo links. Anyone know where I could buy these or is this something I'll have to fab

[allanon1965]

the issue i see is the location of the servo link on the tierod...the tierod looks to be rotating as its turned right, therefore negating much of the turning force...

you need to get steering links that both ends hook to the steering arm on the right knuckle...

I used the VP cms mount along with the VP steering links...

[Maru]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

the issue i see is the location of the servo link on the tierod...the tierod looks to be rotating as its turned right, therefore negating much of the turning force...

Since I am thinking about getting a pan hard too. Do you notice any difference in steering? Doesn't the different angle of the steering link results in more work for servo?

[2-shot]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

the issue i see is the location of the servo link on the tierod...the tierod looks to be rotating as its turned right, therefore negating much of the turning force...



you need to get steering links that both ends hook to the steering arm on the right knuckle...



I used the VP cms mount along with the VP steering links...

+1

The drag link and tie rod should be attached to the same spot on the knuckle.



Sent from my modded TI-83 plus.

[Jwill]

@Troublkitty: if it's flexing you may wanna look into a vp link.

@Maru: if the front wheels get in a bind ie too much resistance the force applied will be absorbed through the suspension. for scale go cms for performance go servo on axle I run a cms with panhard on my rig because Iike the scale appearance.

[allanon1965]

Originally Posted by Maru

Since I am thinking about getting a pan hard too. Do you notice any difference in steering? Doesn't the different angle of the steering link results in more work for servo?

I dont have any issues with my steering...i have 3 wraiths...the other two still have the axle mounted servos...my chassis mounted servo works as well if not better than the stock setups....

[Troublekitty]

Originally Posted by allanon1965

I used the VP cms mount along with the VP steering links...

Where can I get these. Got a link? They look like they would solve my problem

[allanon1965]

pan hard... Wraith Panhard Kit - Vanquish Products

cms... Axial Wraith Chassis Mounted Servo - Vanquish Products

[altd896]

Your drag link from the servo is too short hence your servo arm is already off to the right (about 7 o'clock) when your wheels are straight.
While the wheels are straight disconnect the drag link from the servo arm, take the servo arm off & try to get it back on where it's approximately square to the angle the tie rod is going to run at (probably about 5 o'clock) then lengthen your drag link out & you should have equal steering in each direction.

[skidtoy]

Originally Posted by altd896

Your drag link from the servo is too short hence your servo arm is already off to the right (about 7 o'clock) when your wheels are straight.
While the wheels are straight disconnect the drag link from the servo arm, take the servo arm off & try to get it back on where it's approximately square to the angle the tie rod is going to run at (probably about 5 o'clock) then lengthen your drag link out & you should have equal steering in each direction.

im with you on this

[WHITE-TRASH]

4 links + panhard + drag link mounted to the tie rod + panhard mounted too close to the center of the axle = your setup is all sorts of screwed up.



To fix it take off one of the upper links, build a panhard mount on the axle closer to the knuckle and at an angle equal to the drag link, which should also be mounted to the knuckle NOT to the tie rod.

[Troublekitty]

Originally Posted by WHITE-TRASH

4 links + panhard + drag link mounted to the tie rod + panhard mounted too close to the center of the axle = your setup is all sorts of screwed up.



To fix it take off one of the upper links, build a panhard mount on the axle closer to the knuckle and at an angle equal to the drag link, which should also be mounted to the knuckle NOT to the tie rod.

Ok so besides the jacked up rig which link would be the best to remove. Ive looked inti the vanquish drag link and that seems to get the best for adjustable linkage or should I scrap the whole setup and get the vanquish setup.

[WHITE-TRASH]

Yea VP makes nice steering parts. I've bent my tie rod a few times and straightened it back out but I drive fast and by braille.


As for which link to remove either of the top links and you'll be fine.

[Troublekitty]

So after removing an upper link and switching my drag link to my left knuckle my rig was still screwy so I scrapped it. Thanks for all the help anyway y'all

[maslin]

Originally Posted by Troublekitty

So after removing an upper link and switching my drag link to my left knuckle my rig was still screwy so I scrapped it. Thanks for all the help anyway y'all

That will never work.

Panhard and drag link should be to the same side. The right side seems to be the way most go.

[Troublekitty]

Originally Posted by maslin

That will never work.

Panhard and drag link should be to the same side. The right side seems to be the way most go.

Yeah I figured that out real fast lol. The problem is, is that I don't have a way to fabricate a custom link or any real way to measure it out and by lifting my servo my drag link wouldn't push to the right it just kinda flexed outward. It's all good you buy and you learn. Wasn't too bad of a loss. Got some more bolts and nuts for my quick fix collection