Method 2.2 wheels with Axial Ripsaws. Problem with bead slip.

[Banjoblue]

I recently purchased some vanquish method 2.2 wheels I'm trying to mount my axial ripsaw tires to them and the bead on the inner ring keeps slipping out from beneath that ring any ideas? Go Warriors!!!

[gbean]

#godubs

Make sure the bead is all the way over the inner clamp ring before you start to tighten down the outer halves.

[Banjoblue]

It is. Just keeps slipping out. Pretty frustrating. Apparently there are some inner ring WIDENERS I can buy from BDN?

[valheru]

Some rough sand the groove in the wheel, as well as the tire bead itself to improve friction between the two.

Clean everything with rubbing alcohol to make certain there is no de-moulding agent left on all components.

You could also apply a bit of brush-on electrical tape on the bead to act as 1:1 bead sealer, it is removable.

[Banjoblue]

Will buy some brush-on elec. tape on way home today, good idea thanks!

[Banjoblue]

Well....liquid tape did not work. Wheels just plain too narrow for these tires. Put out a PM to get some WIDENERS which I'm not too happy about having to purchase. Wouldn't have bought these wheels if I had known all this in advance. May try some RC4WD Genius 2.2 tires as they are apparently more narrow than most tires and should work with the Method wheels. Thanks for all the info, please give more if ya got it!

[HahnsB2]

They can be mounted, I've done it.



Wideners are a good idea anyways.

[Banjoblue]

Originally Posted by HahnsB2

They can be mounted, I've done it.



Wideners are a good idea anyways.

How'd ya do it? Use any glue or anything?

[Soldat Vaillant]

When mounting wide tires on narrow wheels I find it helps if you loosen the beadlock rings crews 1/2 - 2/3 their total length when you start. Gradually tighten the rear ring first, then gradually tighten the bealock ring. Keep checking the bead while you're tightening the screws.

[Banjoblue]

Finally got it. Few dots of tire glue and problem solved. Used sparingly so when time to pull off a small amount of acetone should do the trick. We'll see how she performs without the wideners in wheels? Hopefully all will be good, if not I'll order them.


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[SCREAMER]

Curious, did you get the original .9 wide methods or the new 1.2 wide methods?

[Soldat Vaillant]

They're the .8" wide (as per Vanquish) 101's, the inner ring is 20mm (.787") wide from the info. in his thread in the Tires and Wheels section. So actual bead width is probably pretty close the .8" specs. I thought my SSD's were narrow at 1", but the Rip Saw mounted up okay. I can see how .8" would be a pain in the *** to mount.

[Banjoblue]

Didn't know they had them in diff. widths?! Where do they give you that option on their website? Really? Had known I would have certainly bought a wider rim and not have gone thru all this B.S.

[SCREAMER]

They started releasing the new wider 1.2 option recently. It's part of the description on their website. I'll post a link.
Method 2.2 Race Wheel (1.2" Wide) 101 Black/Clear Anodized - Vanquish Products

[Soldat Vaillant]

The wider wheels are on the same page as the narrow, the first 16 wheels you see on the Method Race Wheels page. They're listed as (1.2" wide) but they're a recent addition to their inventory. They may not have been available when you purchased yours.

RC Accessories - 2.2 Beadlock Wheels - 2.2 Method Race Wheels - Vanquish Products

[Banjoblue]

Yup. Sure nuff. 1.2 oh well. Well took it out today and was pleased with how it handled didn't notice any difference with tires mounted up on slimmer wheel. Guy that makes BDN wideners said he won't have any available till July/August may get some at later date. May not.

[PileDriver]

the problem i had with the ripsaws was pulling beads on the trail. never had more problems with a tire that with these.

just get some proline swampers or rock beasts if u have any more problems.

[Alexander_0_1]

I use the CFM 1.25 widening kits on all my 2.2 vanquish wheels, you get a better contact area.

You can go looking for them (1.25"), but I think CFM is making 1" kits at the moment.

1.25" is the width of the internal clamping ring, so once you get them mounted up the total width is more than 1.25"

[gbean]

Originally Posted by Alexander_0_1

I use the CFM 1.25 widening kits on all my 2.2 vanquish wheels, you get a better contact area.

You can go looking for them (1.25"), but I think CFM is making 1" kits at the moment.

1.25" is the width of the internal clamping ring, so once you get them mounted up the total width is more than 1.25"

I pre ordered a 1" set over a month ago, I'm second on the list.... Lets just say there hasn't been much communication...

[Alexander_0_1]

Originally Posted by gbean

I pre ordered a 1" set over a month ago, I'm second on the list.... Lets just say there hasn't been much communication...

That's not unexpected since he's (CFM) making them in house this time around. Don't quote me but I think I waited 6 weeks for mine, but it was a shipping mishap, cause CFM was flooded with orders, and I think mine didn't make it to the post office. They might have been pushed to the back of the pile of stuff that was suppose to get shipped out, no big deal he shipped them eventually.

I apologized for bothering him in my second e-mail, and politely asked if they were on they're way to me, and he apologized for misplacing them on the shipping shelves.