Stay with ripsaw tires or upgrade?

[novarider]

I'm new to the wraith scene. I picked up a used wraith and it has ripsaw tires with some closed cell single stage foams. On my Scx10's I put proline tsl xl tires and ci duel stage foams and they are awesome. So should I stick with the ripsaw tires and just get some ci duel stage foams or should I go ahead and get different tires as well? I will be using it for crawling and trailing nothing fast.

[o0wiz0o]

The Ripsaws are a capable tire with a good compound so it's not an essential upgrade.

[mudman270]

I would stay with ripsaws for now. But if you start upgrading your truck you might need some better tires.


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[Revoasian]

Agreed with the last 2 replies. I would take that money you were going to spend on tires and use them towards upgrading the steering links and or suspension links. If you already have them then start saving for better c-hubs, knuckles, and lockouts. Those ripsaws are fine for trailing and some mild crawling.

[Turtlejon]

Are the stock ripsaws R35?

[Sevastra]

Originally Posted by Turtlejon

Are the stock ripsaws R35?

If they came in the kit? Yes. If it came on a RTR? No.

[Zad2k]

From what I understand the Spawn RTR comes with R35's but I could be wrong.

[Eric0424]

Originally Posted by Zad2k

From what I understand the Spawn RTR comes with R35's but I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by Sevastra

If they came in the kit? Yes. If it came on a RTR? No.

From what I've read all the current RtR's and kits come with R35 compound tires, whether it's the BF Goodrich, Falken, Handkook, Ripsaw or Maxxis tires. Reading the product, parts and tires pages and various manuals it seems all the tires Axial currently offers are R35, whether in a kit or RtR, 2.2" or 1.9" or their short course 2.2/3.0" tires (EXO buggy).

I have yet to see any other compound in their tires. Might have been different when they were getting tires from Pro-Line, but it appears R35 is Axials one and only compound now.

Axial Racing - tires

Part number for the stock Spawn tire is AX12015, bottom of page 21 and very first part in the parts list on page 22 in the Spawn manual. It's the same number as the Wraith kit tire, top of page 39, bottom of page 45 and the fourth item in the parts list on page 46 in the Wraith kit manual. If you look closely at the pictures below (from Spawn Overview page) you'll see the part number (AX12015) on the right front and left front tires at the 3 O'clock position.

Axial Racing - 2.2 Ripsaw Tires - R35 Compound AX12015 (2pcs)

[o0wiz0o]

I wonder when 'Current' started. The BFG on my Spyder are the crap s40 compound. I could chuck them through a window they are that hard!

[sdmf]

Originally Posted by o0wiz0o

I wonder when 'Current' started. The BFG on my Spyder are the crap s40 compound. I could chuck them through a window they are that hard!

The PS wraith has never stated they came with r35, it states clearly high durability s40 compound.

The ripsaws are acceptable, they don't clear out the best, but do offer pretty decent traction.

[o0wiz0o]

'high durability s40 compound'....I have verified this with a Angle Grinder. The BFG remain un-phased.

[Eric0424]

Originally Posted by o0wiz0o

I wonder when 'Current' started. The BFG on my Spyder are the crap s40 compound. I could chuck them through a window they are that hard!

No idea if or when they may have changed the tires, but it seems you can't find the "durable high mileage S40 compound" BFGoodrich or any other S40 tire anywhere but on the Poison Spyder. Looking at a set of new Spawn pull-off tires & wheels on e-Bay, it appears there's no white dot on the tires to indicate the R35 compound. Could have been removed by the seller, but it's also possible the Spawn tires are not R35 despite the part numbers being the same. The BFGoodrich have no part number on them in either compound and the part numbers in the manuals (Wraith kit, Spawn & Poison Spyder) lead back to the R35 tires.

[sdmf]

Originally Posted by o0wiz0o

'high durability s40 compound'....I have verified this with a Angle Grinder. The BFG remain un-phased.

I hear ya. I don't know why they decided to give that tire with the PS. Its one of the most useless tires I have dealt with. I took the foams out and they still had barely any deformation over rocks.

[Sevastra]

Ah, didn't know they made the R35 their main tire compound. Good to know.

If you're not happy with the ripsaws there's plenty of threads and videos out on how to modify the tread patterns for better grip.

[95yjsahara]

Got a yet I for Xmas with the bfg tires. Though they were good until I bought a wraith with the ripsaws. I gotta say I love the ripsaw tires compared to the bfgs. Could be the compound. Idk

[Boover]

I don't think the Spawn ripsaws are R35. Could be wrong, but they don't feel that way to me. As has been discussed in other threads, the part #'s are all the same because they come from the same mold regardless of compound.

[Jrgunn5150]

Originally Posted by o0wiz0o

I wonder when 'Current' started. The BFG on my Spyder are the crap s40 compound. I could chuck them through a window they are that hard!

Right, my Ripsaws suck lol.

[Eric0424]

Originally Posted by Boover

I don't think the Spawn ripsaws are R35. Could be wrong, but they don't feel that way to me. As has been discussed in other threads, the part #'s are all the same because they come from the same mold regardless of compound.

Yeah, was mentioned earlier.

Originally Posted by Eric0424

Looking at a set of new Spawn pull-off tires & wheels on e-Bay, it appears there's no white dot on the tires to indicate the R35 compound. Could have been removed by the seller, but it's also possible the Spawn tires are not R35 despite the part numbers being the same.

Rubber compound can make or break any given tire, the stock Slash BF Goodrich and Kuhmo tires a worthless, but the exact same tire in the Traxxas "S1 Ultra Soft" compound are great performers. Not what I would call "ultra soft" but very similar compound to Pro-Line M3 or J-Concepts soft.

People tend to blame the tires (tread pattern) for poor performance, but it's usually a medium or firm rubber compound causing the problem. Same tire in the softer compounds generally work much better. Which is why we're seeing "Ripsaw's suck" and "Ripsaw's are great". The Ripsaw tread design isn't the problem, it's the medium or firm compound with some of the RtR's.

[Therichardpowell]

I bought a used Wraith as my first crawler and thought I was doing pretty good with it but it seemed like I had to throttle through everything. Then I hung out with a guy with a Honcho and some proline tsl's and his truck ate mine up. His tires are way softer and stickier. He could just drive up this rock face that I can barely full throttle up. His RC buddy keeps telling me that ripsaws are a great tire but mine suck horribly. I hope the flat irons I ordered are better. I ordered a set of Gmade mudrock beadlocks before reading the reviews. Now I'm worried I just blew my wheel budget on junk...

[Jrgunn5150]

Originally Posted by Therichardpowell

I bought a used Wraith as my first crawler and thought I was doing pretty good with it but it seemed like I had to throttle through everything. Then I hung out with a guy with a Honcho and some proline tsl's and his truck ate mine up. His tires are way softer and stickier. He could just drive up this rock face that I can barely full throttle up. His RC buddy keeps telling me that ripsaws are a great tire but mine suck horribly. I hope the flat irons I ordered are better. I ordered a set of Gmade mudrock beadlocks before reading the reviews. Now I'm worried I just blew my wheel budget on junk...

Eh, sometimes those reviews are tricky. And you see what a difference tire compound can make! Flat Irons are a good tire, I have no experience with the Gmade wheels though. I know my Trail Ready wheels have bad reviews, adn they are working fine for me.