Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Well I bought a used one and was looking at things to do to it and thought I am changing most of it so why not build one. My wife is already hating me... I have a DMG Stiffy ordered, talked a little about the motor and ESC and figured I should first get the chassis and axles together then get the electronics in place. The next big purchase will be axles and I am torn because I see there are a lot of you out there with the offset axles and a lot with the centered axles. I am looking at the Currie RockJock 70 axles and wanted to hear real life experience opinions on centered vs offset axles. In my full size 4X4 I prefer a more inline geometry for strength but then again I have a 6,000 lb Landcruiser with 37's spinning. Let's hear from your experiences on the experts in this hobbie, centered or offset? Pros and Cons please |
Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Centered out back. Look into the SSD diamonds..... great value and performance. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...59ad24805c.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...744e709d01.jpg With my motor and gearing this truck can be a monster, full throttle will pull a full even wheelie, when full traction is there. The centered rear eliminated most of my torque twist. This in NOT a wheelie truck, normally slow in the rocks, but I can jump it out of a deep spot if needed. I run rip rap primarily so this helps me. Stock gearing (HD upgrade) incision locker . I always add the SSD delrin pinion protector I went this way as it was the cheapest accessory wise. Comes with the HD axles now, no lockouts needed. All shock mounts are the same so what you have will work. Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Are these He ones to have to flip the gears because hey are opposite? How do they hold up as far as bending? I do not see much as far as support at the center pumpkin |
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Hold stock axial gears , I put them in the way the old came out. These are solid metal, they are shiny on the bottom of both currently. As I crawl I don't run a U4 truss setup, I've yet to bend an axle or even flatten a bearing . I run 3 of these, 2 in the Wraith and a wide on my Yeti . Bulletproof , 3s and Holmes or Tekin power , I don't baby anything Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Good answer! I was looking at the VP knuckles and they have a high steer type of approach and I did not see that on the SSD, can the knuckles from VP mount on the SSD's? |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Yes, I used a complete VP kit in orange. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d9d23654b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7c9025ba2a.jpg Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Nice! Now I will work on the gearing so I can order everything at once. Anyone know of any of the shops have sales or will have a sale relatively soon? I need to order my TA's too |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I like those knuckle weights on the steering. Kinda wish they worked with the scale vanquish knuckles I have. |
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Those are from RC Bros https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...271b71e461.jpg Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I saw they had those. The scale knuckles don't have the adjustable ackerman plates so I'm S.O.L. I might be able to fab a mount that might work but it would ruin the scale look and I'm not sure how strong it would be. I really like the idea of adding weight without adding rotating mass. Having wheel weights on my front rims is probably adding to my issues with the pinion contacting the inside of the axle. Those hexes are quite nice as well. |
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Totally true, I don't so I can run them. Hang up and Drive |
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The centered rear looks great. Now I wish somebody would do the same for the front axle. |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Are there axles (internal axle shafts) that are different lengths for whatever reason? I am trying to get a parts list together with numbers so I can try and find a place to buy everything from in hopes of saving some coin. This is going to be an expensive build |
Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Yes , with normal pumpkin off to one side one axle is short, one long. Centered pumpkin means axles are same length Hang up and Drive |
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"Lockouts are on the outside ends on stock AR60 axles, they hold the end bearings, not needed with SSD Axles https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5cd158c46e.jpg I know they are listed separately , but I have 3 SSD diamonds. 1 front, not applicable. I have a wide on my Yeti, when I ordered it I had a set of HDs on hand, I still have them as a spare. The way to see is if the axles come with the slotted hexes, mine did . You can see them in the first picture, small bag up front. The only complaint I had read was the stock axles bending, and the upgrade solved it. Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I talked with Chris at SSD and he said the only one that comes with the HD is the Yeti wide axle housing |
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OK makes sense as I did get that for the yeti, regular on the wraith Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions So is incision the best or cheapest? Just asking because at https://www.amainhobbies.com/incisio...c00001/p487847 they have bad reviews about sloppy fit |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I am up in the air on color, are yours black or grey in the picture? I was leaning toward grey |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions So I was getting ready to check out at RPP (went with the grey axle housings) and was looking for avid revolution bearings and they do not carry them. So I looked at Fast Eddy bearings and read their disclaimer on the bearings in the kit. I compared the bearings in the Avid Revolutions Wraith bearing Kit - Revolution than the Fast Eddy's Team Fast Eddy Axial Wraith Bearing Kit Now I am concerned since I have no idea what the sizes are supposed to be. Was hoping to order all at once. bummer |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Here's a link to the Wraith user's manual. Page 10 has all the bearing sizes and required number of each. Hope that helps. http://docs.axialracing.com/instruct...raith™_KIT.pdf |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions All three of mine are tight, no slop. I read a lot of reviews and bang for the buck seems right. Hang up and Drive |
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Mine were black, now a bit shiny due to fun!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bd0b18812e.jpg Hang up and Drive |
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SHHHHH! :shock: Don't tell my wife! "thumbsup" |
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Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Ok... now the waiting game... RPP is quick but others may not be as quick |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Man mike, that's like a lottery scratch-it ticket! The fun doesn't stop until it's all scratched off! lol |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions 2 Attachment(s) WOW! Sunday delivery! Those guys ROCK! Let the fun begin! |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I'm jealous !! My box comes next week , and by pure coincidence , the wife leaves the same day on her vacation ..... I'm gonna have more fun though! Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions 1 Attachment(s) I went through the order and all of here. I had some foam issues I wanted to correct in the existing Wraith so I got everything from Crawler Innovations for the 6.0 w/Comp Cut in the new tires. I am done for the night so here is a pic of the existing wheels and new wheels with the tires. |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions 3 Attachment(s) Ok, I need my main frame pieces to really get started but I decided to start on the rear end. Now, I have never done this so go easy on me. I have the Axial gear set, incision locker, the rear end and a HD axle. The first thing I installed the bearings and the pinion bearing. Then when I got to the incision locker to the ring gear I cannot find hardware. I have a RC Screwz kit but I may have gotten screwzed on that deal because I was unable to find 4 screws that small but then again nothing is organized in the dam thing. Where can I get that hardware? I was also trying to find some instructions to make sure I do it correctly but not able to find anything. Impatient I guess but I put it together knowing I need to button everything up inside with loctight and screws before I bolt things up. That is a long way down the road, still waiting on parts and now I am going to wait until Labor Day to see if I can get a better discount from RPP to secure a tranny and whatever else I have missed in my ordering. I missed the 15% by ordering 20 hours too soon but who knew. |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions The locker screws are M2x10, Axial part # is AXA015 but I wouldn't especially go get those, any brand of the best quality you can get, they are tiny & can tend to break. M2x8 would suffice also into a spool like you've got. Dunno if you got (or found online) the manual but if not link is here http://docs.axialracing.com/instruct...cale_-_Kit.pdf |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions I have been reading through that manual and those screws are way to long. I guess I am surprised the incision locker does not come with hardware or at least tell you what hardware to use. From what I can tell the hole on the ring is not threaded just a through hole so the threads have to be on the locker which can not be much as thin as it is. In 1:1 at least there are manuals for everything |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions All the locker is replace the spur holder, if you had a rtr or kit the stock screws would work Hang up and Drive |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions 1 Attachment(s) Still waiting for parts so I sorted the Screwz... |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Next time you're in walmart, pick up a plano tackle box. They're great for storing parts like this. I have one filled with KNK parts. |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions Every time I see Gear Head wheels I get excited. It doesn't matter that I own multiple sets and that I see them often. There is no RC beauty like Gear Head wheels! They look great with that axle. Cool build! |
Re: Newbie Working on a New Build - LOTS of questions What are your opinions on slippers? Would the stock slipper clutch be fine or would an after market work better for higher power motors like the Puller Pro 3500 I am using? |
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