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MNorby · 10-30-2010, 08:42 AM

Are the cutting brakes a worthwhile feature or more gimmick on these? Trying to decide if its worth the switch for the cutting brakes. Didn't seem to find any thread on the topic.

articzap · 10-30-2010, 08:47 AM

They are not released yet, but should be very worth while. Ability to turn a lot tighter then a dig would allow.

Abavuso · 10-30-2010, 08:53 AM

What is this, I've not heard about it yet?

Jeepkid · 10-30-2010, 08:54 AM

IMO it seems like extra wieght that I dont need. One more thing to pile in thetight space that is theXR10. I can get by with just dig.

Jeepkid · 10-30-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Abavuso

What is this, I've not heard about it yet?

It a brake that will give you the ability to lock up right or left rear wheel and have 3 wheels still powered. I'll try to find the video.

articzap · 10-30-2010, 09:00 AM

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1418288421865

There's a video of the cutting brake. It allows you to control power going to each rear wheel independently.

Jeepkid · 10-30-2010, 09:03 AM

Damn, you found it before I could. It is sweet, I just cant see myself using it that much at all.

articzap · 10-30-2010, 09:05 AM

Depends on the course. Tight turns will make it really useful. Less reverse points being able to pivot the whole truck on one wheel endlessly, pending traction and surface.

MNorby · 10-30-2010, 09:06 AM

I have them on my 1:1 and they are useful but most of the time I just lock both my rears just like a normal dig , mostly depends on terrain if one wheel is enough or not. That's why I ask when it comes to 10:1.

WarTrader · 10-30-2010, 05:31 PM

Well with soo much front weight bias I cannot see where the light end of the rig with the lightest wheel/tire is going to allow you to piviot like cutting brakes on a 1:1 IMO. The big benefit I see is making an uphill turn or turning out of a hole?? If you watch the vid it would appear to me that dig will still bring about a tighter turn??

Jeepkid · 10-30-2010, 05:36 PM

I noticed the same thing. I knew that I didnt need that upgrade when I saw the video. My buddy watch it and was like(sooooo what is the benifit?)

articzap · 10-30-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarTrader

Well with soo much front weight bias I cannot see where the light end of the rig with the lightest wheel/tire is going to allow you to piviot like cutting brakes on a 1:1 IMO. The big benefit I see is making an uphill turn or turning out of a hole?? If you watch the vid it would appear to me that dig will still bring about a tighter turn??

I disagree.

wrightcs77 · 10-30-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articzap

They are not released yet, but should be very worth while. Ability to turn a lot tighter then a dig would allow.

Not true! I have tested it multiple times in a past rig of mine. The rigs do not have enough weight/rear traction to hold the back of the rig with only the inside rear tire locked. You need both rear wheels locked to have the tightest turning radius.

The cutting brake will help more in situations of climbing ledges off camber and getting out of holes

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Jeepkid · 10-30-2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrightcs77

Not true! I have tested it multiple times in a past rig of mine. The rigs do not have enough weight/rear traction to hold the back of the rig with only the inside rear tire locked. You need both rear wheels locked to have the tightest turning radius.

The cutting brake will help more in situations of climbing ledges off camber and getting out of holes

.

That is what I thought.

Robbs2001tj · 10-30-2010, 11:43 PM

There was only one time I needed the cutting brake since I got my XR10. But was still able get the rear tire out of the hole it was in with the control of a twin stick

ADDICT · 10-31-2010, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrightcs77

Not true! I have tested it multiple times in a past rig of mine. The rigs do not have enough weight/rear traction to hold the back of the rig with only the inside rear tire locked. You need both rear wheels locked to have the tightest turning radius.

The cutting brake will help more in situations of climbing ledges off camber and getting out of holes

.

Three wheels powering out your turn is tighter than two... It all depends on your set up. If you dont have the correct weight set up to use CB and/or enough traction on how your rig is positioned, then yes your statment is true. I understand where your comming from though.

It's obv that you would get more turning radius. Try a mock up test:

- Place your rig on the floor.
- Hold either your left/rear or right/rear tire in place. (1 tire)
- imagine 3x tires taking you through the turn.... super sharp, tighter than a conv dig set up.

* The thing is, using it in the right situation....AND having a t/x set up that can perform these duties. If your using cutting brakes, you better already know all your features of your rig and know how to drive the thing in a comp enviorment.

no disrespect wrightcs77, I know you know you shit.

articzap · 10-31-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADDICT

Three wheels powering out your turn is tighter than two... It all depends on your set up. If you dont have the correct weight set up to use CB and/or enough traction on how your rig is positioned, then yes your statment is true. I understand where your comming from though.

It's obv that you would get more turning radius. Try a mock up test:

- Place your rig on the floor.
- Hold either your left/rear or right/rear tire in place. (1 tire)
- imagine 3x tires taking you through the turn.... super sharp, tighter than a conv dig set up.

* The thing is, using it in the right situation....AND having a t/x set up that can perform these duties. If your using cutting brakes, you better already know all your features of your rig and know how to drive the thing in a comp enviorment.

no disrespect wrightcs77, I know you know you shit.

I have a feeling the best way to use the cutting brake will be to also dial out a bit of rear esc.

ADDICT · 10-31-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by articzap

I have a feeling the best way to use the cutting brake will be to also dial out a bit of rear esc.

true! another good point.

* All and all it isn't mastered yet to the point where everyone can understand the correct way to 1) set it up and 2) use it.

Jeepkid · 10-31-2010, 12:51 PM

Yes, it would take alot of running the rig in situations where you know when to use the cutting break to your advantage. Other wise you would just be using it in the wrong spots during a comp and could waste time and cost you points.

KNIFE · 10-31-2010, 01:03 PM

ON A 1:1 IT'S A MUST....

If your on a course of ROCKS with ledges, bumps, dirt and one guy that can drive with cutting brakes and you can drive but you don't have cut ---
YOU'LL LOSE

EVERYTIME.........

10-30-2010, 08:42 AM	#1
MNorby Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Wyoming Posts: 904	Cutting brakes? Are the cutting brakes a worthwhile feature or more gimmick on these? Trying to decide if its worth the switch for the cutting brakes. Didn't seem to find any thread on the topic.

10-30-2010, 08:47 AM	#2
articzap RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Depew Posts: 1,551	They are not released yet, but should be very worth while. Ability to turn a lot tighter then a dig would allow.

10-30-2010, 08:53 AM	#3
Abavuso RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Colorado Springs, Co Posts: 1,441	What is this, I've not heard about it yet?

10-30-2010, 08:54 AM	#4
Jeepkid I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GrandRapids, MILITIAGAN Posts: 3,197	IMO it seems like extra wieght that I dont need. One more thing to pile in thetight space that is theXR10. I can get by with just dig.

10-30-2010, 09:00 AM	#6
articzap RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Depew Posts: 1,551	http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1418288421865 There's a video of the cutting brake. It allows you to control power going to each rear wheel independently.

10-30-2010, 09:03 AM	#7
Jeepkid I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GrandRapids, MILITIAGAN Posts: 3,197	Damn, you found it before I could. It is sweet, I just cant see myself using it that much at all.

10-30-2010, 09:05 AM	#8
articzap RCC Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Depew Posts: 1,551	Depends on the course. Tight turns will make it really useful. Less reverse points being able to pivot the whole truck on one wheel endlessly, pending traction and surface.

10-30-2010, 09:06 AM	#9
MNorby Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Wyoming Posts: 904	I have them on my 1:1 and they are useful but most of the time I just lock both my rears just like a normal dig , mostly depends on terrain if one wheel is enough or not. That's why I ask when it comes to 10:1.

10-30-2010, 05:31 PM	#10
WarTrader Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somewhere near the lake in IL Posts: 975	Well with soo much front weight bias I cannot see where the light end of the rig with the lightest wheel/tire is going to allow you to piviot like cutting brakes on a 1:1 IMO. The big benefit I see is making an uphill turn or turning out of a hole?? If you watch the vid it would appear to me that dig will still bring about a tighter turn??

10-30-2010, 05:36 PM	#11
Jeepkid I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GrandRapids, MILITIAGAN Posts: 3,197	I noticed the same thing. I knew that I didnt need that upgrade when I saw the video. My buddy watch it and was like(sooooo what is the benifit?)

10-30-2010, 11:43 PM	#15
Robbs2001tj Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rocklin Posts: 374	There was only one time I needed the cutting brake since I got my XR10. But was still able get the rear tire out of the hole it was in with the control of a twin stick

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10-31-2010, 12:51 PM	#19
Jeepkid I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GrandRapids, MILITIAGAN Posts: 3,197	Yes, it would take alot of running the rig in situations where you know when to use the cutting break to your advantage. Other wise you would just be using it in the wrong spots during a comp and could waste time and cost you points.

10-31-2010, 01:03 PM	#20
KNIFE Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: BEHIND THE WHEEL////MOAB Posts: 281	ON A 1:1 IT'S A MUST.... If your on a course of ROCKS with ledges, bumps, dirt and one guy that can drive with cutting brakes and you can drive but you don't have cut --- YOU'LL LOSE EVERYTIME.........

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