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armycrawler101st 03-16-2011 12:48 PM

Any tips to get the most articulation?
 
My rig is stiff as hell!!!

I'm still running the stock chassis with 30* angled uppers and the lowers are the original stock uppers (LOL) and the stock shocks (if that makes a difference). If it is the lowers, I am currently looking for better lower links. I see the delrin is most popular, but I don't like the way they look---too chunky. So I am looking for tie rod lowers, just haven't found any yet. Thanks!

BEELZEBOB 03-16-2011 12:51 PM

Post us a pic of your suspension set up.

sounds like you got some binding goin on.

also, what springs and oil weight are you running?


and be careful, you dont want too much articulation!

bigstu 03-16-2011 01:59 PM

I was the same with the delrin lowers.
Now that I have them, I can't imagine going back. They go over the rocks MUCH easier than the aluminum links.
I had the same problem. Switched to Losi gold springs on all 4 corners made it nice and soft.
Then I made some changes and ended up going to golds up front and greys out back. Running that with my viper chassis now and it is still working good.
Only change I made was to go to 45 shock oil, and I may go back to 30, as it takes some wiggling to get it to settle down some times.

armycrawler101st 03-16-2011 02:00 PM

I am running the springs that came in the XR10 kit and the 30wt oil that came with it as well. Shocks and stuff are all stock.


Here is the front, the rear is about the same.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/DSC01180.jpg


And here is just a side shot of the parts.

http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/a...3/DSC01179.jpg

Harley 03-16-2011 02:02 PM

Have you change the stock springs? That's the first step. Also, you need to read more, having a ton of articulation is not what we are after, 6 inches is about all that's needed.... <--- no smartass comments.

Harley 03-16-2011 02:03 PM

Posting at the same time.

Change your springs.

666 03-16-2011 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harley (Post 2989328)
6 inches is about all that's needed....

Is that what she tells you? :lmao:

Jeepkid 03-16-2011 02:04 PM

To tell you the truth, I have 6inches of articulation and thats perfect. You want to be a tire hight of flex.

armycrawler101st 03-16-2011 02:13 PM

I was just out crawling over dumb stuff and it seemed like my rig was a little stiff. I have like a 5" reach as you can see from the pics. What kind of spring, like a softer or weaker one that doesn't give so much resistance to the articulation?

Jeepkid 03-16-2011 02:46 PM

I am running Losi golds front and rear, I ran them on the stock shocks. Now I got bigbores. They react much better then the stock springs, but I am also running 20wt in my shocks at the moment. In the cold the 30wt was stiff. Also check and see if your shocksare bled correctly. Sometimes, when there is toomuch oil in them they wont fully compress.

Harley 03-16-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armycrawler101st (Post 2989348)
What kind of spring, like a softer or weaker one that doesn't give so much resistance to the articulation?

Yes. Losi Golds are a good start. Again, a little reading will help you understand this better.

Harley 03-16-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666 (Post 2989334)
Is that what she tells you? :lmao:

I knew it was coming :lol:

fa1rch1ld 03-16-2011 03:24 PM

Axial now also has a spring that is the same as the Losi Golds...think they are
the purples, they even have a lighter spring rate...Blacks?

neilus 03-16-2011 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fa1rch1ld (Post 2989447)
Axial now also has a spring that is the same as the Losi Golds...think they are
the purples, they even have a lighter spring rate...Blacks?

Axial Blacks are already softer than Losi Golds. Golds are 1.4lbs and the Axial Blacks are 1.04lbs.

GEARSCIENCE 03-16-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fa1rch1ld (Post 2989447)
Axial now also has a spring that is the same as the Losi Golds...think they are
the purples, they even have a lighter spring rate...Blacks?

I heard the new axial springs that are supposed to be softer than the Golds are actually stiffer in feel... on the losi board, they said they're gonna release the prototype super soft spring that del Monte has been running for a while. Hope that helps "thumbsup"

ol' gravy leg 03-16-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilus (Post 2989475)
Axial Blacks are already softer than Losi Golds. Golds are 1.4lbs and the Axial Blacks are 1.04lbs.

They are actually pretty close despite the advertised numbers. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=14

I tried the blacks, but the golds still felt softer and smoother. Either way, they are both too stiff IMO. "thumbsup"

BEELZEBOB 03-16-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol' gravy leg (Post 2989496)
They are actually pretty close despite the advertised numbers. http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showp...6&postcount=14

I tried the blacks, but the golds still felt softer and smoother. Either way, they are both too stiff IMO. "thumbsup"

HUh.

I knew there was a reason i bought these little losi springs.

haven't run them yet though

What color are your lil dinky springs?

darkmanx 03-16-2011 04:41 PM

I am thinking of trying some spaghetti noodles I hear that the rebound rate on them is pretty much the ticket. :wink: "thumbsup"

Jeepkid 03-16-2011 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkmanx (Post 2989571)
I am thinking of trying some spaghetti noodles I hear that the rebound rate on them is pretty much the ticket. :wink: "thumbsup"

http://images.free-extras.com/pics/s/spaghetti-847.gif
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM look at that rebound:lmao:

darkmanx 03-16-2011 05:36 PM

:lmao: YESSSSSSS


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