09-13-2011, 07:38 AM | #21 |
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| Here is the wheel, tire & foam combo we ran at the comp last Saturday. Front: VP DH2 Wheel C.I. 1/4" Wheel Widener (on the outside) 585 hub C.I. Aluminum weights (6 Alum. wieghts in each front wheel for a total of 2 ounces in each front wheel) Red Dot HB Blocks (belt sanded internally and pattern trimmed) Proto type inner foams C.I. Memory Outer foams Rear: VP SLW 1" width V4 C.I. 1/4" Wheel Widener (on the outside) 600 hub No weight Red Dot HB Blocks (belt sanded internally and pattern trimmed) Proto type inner foams C.I. Memory Outer foams |
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09-13-2011, 08:03 AM | #22 |
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Great looking rig Eddie! How are you liking the wideners with the Blocks? I really want to make me a set of the red blocks after trying Itty's. He is running them on 1" rims and they are working very well. I like the extra clearance you get along with the smoothness of a pin tire. Great work! Last edited by limited77; 09-13-2011 at 09:23 AM. |
09-13-2011, 08:08 AM | #23 | |
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Thank you. I really like the wideners and wider wheels. I am only using a 1" wheel with Rovers currently and I have been testing with 1.25" wide rovers again. I am also going to start modifying and testing the pink dot rover. I think there is a lot of possibilities from that tire that have not been explored. | |
09-13-2011, 08:27 AM | #24 |
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Watching this thread. Lovethe rig. Makes me excited to get mine done
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09-28-2011, 08:16 AM | #25 |
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We have been testing new tires with this truck: I have been thinking about this tire for a while and finally just made it. It's a HB white dot Sedona with a HB red dot Block. The sedona has been narrowed a 1/4 inch and the block has been narrowed about 1/8. These are early pictures. I have not mounted them up yet. The Block tired actualy had to be reduced to line up properly with the narrowed sedona. It takes three tires to make one tire. The Sedona side of the tire inside out: The Block side of the tire inside out. The block tire had to be belt sanded before it was cut. Mounted on the XR-10: Specs: 6.0 RTR weight Custom 1" width VP DH1 wheels in front Proto type foams I mounted these up and my son ran them unmodified. He said" they do easy things hard and hard things easily". So the next day I went out and tested and pretty much confirmed what he said. We have one obstacle that we have practicing on for months now. It's the type of obstacle where you can attempt it 20 times and if you were lucky you would complete it once. So I tried this obstacle last. On the third attempt it made it. Then it made it again. After that it struggled a few times and then it made it again. It was clear that the full pin pattern was too crowded. So I went ahead and cut a pattern into the pin side of the tire and went back to the same obstacle. It cleared the obstacle 8 times in 14 attempts. So I am clearly on to something now. I just wanted to update the thread. |
09-28-2011, 08:24 AM | #26 |
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Three tires to make 1? I would hate to think how much a set of these is going to cost. There must be something in the water, cause I thought 6" sedonas were crazy.. What next? These look great. Am keeping my eye on this thread for sure. I like the idea of a pin tire and the sedona. I would have switched them around though and put the sedona tread on the outside. I like to run Sedonas in the front and Rovers in the rear of my rigs, has worked good so far. This makes me wonder about half rover and half sedona tires. Keep up the good work. |
09-28-2011, 08:26 AM | #27 | |
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09-28-2011, 09:43 AM | #28 |
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Welcome. How does the width compare to a standard Sedona? I am having issues with the tires cogging, because the inside lugs rub on my servo and other assorted bits. I don't want to sand down the inside lugs, because I like to turn the tires around and get even wear on the lugs. The side lugs do help, so I don't want to loose them or loose the ability to rotate. With the smooth side wall of the pin tire, that would fix my cogging issues, but am wondering about the width. I like wide tires for the additional footprint.. Can't get too much traction.. |
09-28-2011, 09:54 AM | #29 |
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09-28-2011, 09:55 AM | #30 | |
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| My hybrids are narrower. Mostly because more people use 1" wide wheels and I need to develop a tire be suited for a 1" wide wheel. Standard width Sedonas, Blocks, Khaos and Boss Claws all perform best on a 1.35 wheel (In My Opinion) based on my testing. So I definitely use and recommend 1.25 & 1.35 wheels. That said though, I have encountered a few times where my red blocks had no forward bite. So that is one reason I created this tire. I only made one pair of the tires pictured. I just made a second pair for the rear this morning. They are wider than the first pair, but still narrower than a stock width sedona or block. Quote:
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09-28-2011, 09:59 AM | #31 |
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| Some of it has to do with hub placement on the wheel to. VP SLW's are practically flush to the outside which has pro's and con's. The VP DH2 is flush to the outside as well. That is why I am using a proto type set of VP DH1's I have. These wheels were narrowed from the back side and were a proto type VP made for testing of the DH2 machining. So these wheels are nearly flush at the back even with a 335 hub. |
09-28-2011, 10:20 AM | #32 |
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I like the setup man, looks good! By the way I am loving the 6" sedonas. They work awesome up here in michigan, thanks! Last edited by superduty03; 09-28-2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason: spelling |
09-28-2011, 10:23 AM | #33 |
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Oh man those tires are sweet!!!! Just what I need!
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09-28-2011, 10:38 AM | #34 | |
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09-28-2011, 11:00 AM | #35 |
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Lovin all the testing Eddy. I always liked my sedonas because of the large lugs with good spacing but like you said when big lugs bit they hold on. I find some times the lug can be a bit big to really conform well so these could be a wicked tire.
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09-28-2011, 01:26 PM | #36 | |
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09-28-2011, 02:19 PM | #37 |
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09-28-2011, 08:41 PM | #38 |
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This is a very clean looking rig - great job!!!!!
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09-28-2011, 08:56 PM | #39 |
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Tires are looking awesome. I have always liked the Sedonas, but now that I'm running the Khaos Pins they are my new favorite for sure. For the most part they crawl circles around the Sedonas but there are those few occassins where the Sedonas just seem to work better. Now a tire with the best of both worlds. I am definitely interested.
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09-28-2011, 09:08 PM | #40 | |
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Couldn't said it better my self i run my blocks but there is this one course that we run that the sedonas just seem to work. Great job eddie your changing the way we all crawl with your great tire ideas. | |
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