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02-28-2015, 11:37 AM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada
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| More shock travel in the front or rear?
Hey guys, I picked up some big bores and am in the process of installing them but was wondering (they came pre limited externally) do people tend to limit the front or rear more. I've installed them as I received them and I put more travel up front with pink mini springs and less travel out back with the orange springs. I'm note sure of the oil weights but the front is definitely softer than the rear is. Here are photos for anyone interested. Please ignore the basher cab I have on it now Any opinions? |
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02-28-2015, 01:17 PM | #2 |
RCC Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Folsom
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
My set ups usually have less travel in the rear (but not by much), but my shocks are the same at all four corners.
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03-21-2015, 07:42 PM | #3 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Coaldale
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
mine are the same on all 4 also
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04-14-2015, 12:49 PM | #4 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: NorCal
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04-15-2015, 07:03 AM | #5 |
RCC Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Folsom
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
With limited articulation you can float tires over holes and your rear axle wont over extend and turn you over
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04-15-2015, 09:09 AM | #6 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Norway. Bodø city
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
if you want a lower ride hight you can limit the shocks on the inside,, but if you only want less droop on the shocks you limit the shocks on the outside,, |
04-15-2015, 09:53 AM | #7 |
MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
Think about what happens to the opposite corner tire when the shock reaches the limit of its travel.
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04-15-2015, 10:31 AM | #8 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: ?
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
I've tried some odd set ups with the XR10 including cantilevered front shocks. I've come around to running unlimited shocks all the same length on all 4 corners but I like less angle on the rear shocks which naturally restricts the total range of travel. The more upright the stiffer and less travel you get. One way to eyeball engineer spring rates etc is to lift a wheel by hand and see if the diagonally opposed shock bottoms out exactly when the one you are lifting bottoms out and to tune spring rates/angle until that happens. I don't like it when one shock bottoms out way before the other...then the rig is flippy and floppy and unpredictable on a side hill. I look for about one tire height of articulation. I've tried less and more than that and for my 5 pound rig it works better if the articulation is moderate. Then there's oil and pistons and all that jazz to fine tune how slow or fast the wheels can drop into a hole etc. It's more like a black art than a science and every driver will find a different set up that suits their terrain/driving style & skill/vehicle weight & chassis.
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04-15-2015, 11:14 AM | #9 |
MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
I had a truck that wouldn't climb steps on the diagonal. Then I replaced the rear shocks with solid links and it went right up. Pushing the fronts down because of weight transfer. That led to a conversation which led to a weird ass forced articulation truck that was so cool, but it did have one huge flaw I never cared to work out. Lemme find that thread just to give some people something to look at. Those were the days... Videos don't work so don't bother. No shocks or springs, forced articulation shafty |
04-15-2015, 01:37 PM | #10 | |
Y-Town Crawlers Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Not Hesperia
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear? Quote:
Limiting the rear shock extension will keep the axle from extending too far from the chassis on a climb. There's a sweet spot of travel that is different for every chassis. | |
04-15-2015, 02:17 PM | #11 |
MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio
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| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
Guys, when Del Monte speaks up, you listen.
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04-15-2015, 02:53 PM | #12 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada
Posts: 100
| Re: More shock travel in the front or rear?
Thanks guys, just had the rig out today for a pack and I liked the feel of it, haven't really changed much on the setup from the way I received it. Nice time for a little more input. Play time ended when I went over on a climb and the battery smoked a rock and let out its smoke. Thought I had toasted all the electrics but thankfully just a 1ah pack Not sure what caused the pack to go but one cell wasn't showing up when I checked it so must be something internal. Last edited by Savagethrash; 04-15-2015 at 02:58 PM. |
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