A few YXL RTR Advantage

[tonyfalkon]

I have logged a lot of tribulations attributed to the RTR but now I wanna list a few advantages over the Kit here are some.

Factory AX31087 MT Wheel Washer on the left and Factory upgraded AX31087 M5 Locking Wheel Washer 8x20x3mm on the right as seen below



7.98 x 11.98 x 1.0 mm offset in the back and 7.98 x 11.98 x 2mm extention in the front


Here is an ofna 17mm wheel hub almost the same as the ones that goes in the kit from what I have been hearing about the kit owners who needed shims to get rid of the side to side movement of the wheels.


Another feature I like and this is just personal basher preference screw pins they won't fall off easily.


Locking nuts do just that as you can see there is a 7.98 x 11.98 x 1.5 mm offset in the back this with the 7.98 x 11.98 x 2mm extention in front of the hub locks the wheel securely from wiggling and the serrations to prevent the nut from backing loosely. With the Hub and locking nut attached properly your sure that any movement is from somewhere else.

[Silverblazer50]

So the kit comes with stronger parts from the factory?

[BEELZEBOB]

Originally Posted by Silverblazer50

So the kit comes with stronger parts from the factory?

Yes.

[tonyfalkon]

Yes, most of the parts from the kit are better, Axial listened to customers feedback and included parts that fortified the RTR's weak points which is also why the kit came out much later than expected. Just a list of the better, lower link plates, different style shock and springs, all metal links and the sway bar, they should have also included an aluminum steering plate which everyone would agree is the weakest of them all. I left out the 17 mm wheel hub and hex, which I almost bought into btw, but after a closer look at the kit's and RTR's hub I like the RTR's design better as you can see on pix 2,3,4 and 5. If they incorporated some features of the RTR's hub into the kit's hub then maybe, I believe they could have done better, but take it with a grain of salt, thats just my opinion.

[BEELZEBOB]

The rtr's hubs suck

[tonyfalkon]

Originally Posted by BEELZEBOB

The rtr's hubs suck

then why are kit builders shimming the back of the hub for tighter tolerances

But as I mentioned above its just personal preference I never worry about my wheels falling off or tightening the nuts every now and then to make sure its not loose.

[BEELZEBOB]

K bud.

You're obviously super experienced and know way more than everyone else.

Thats why you can attest to things you don't have.

12<17. Metal > Plastic.

A 2 cent washer and some locktite make a larger and therefore stronger hex well worth it.

But you'd actually have to drive the truck opposed to bitching

[tonyfalkon]

Originally Posted by BEELZEBOB

K bud.

You're obviously super experienced and know way more than everyone else.

Thats why you can attest to things you don't have.

12<17. Metal > Plastic.

A 2 cent washer and some locktite make a larger and therefore stronger hex well worth it.

But you'd actually have to drive the truck opposed to bitching

No doubt that the 17's are better than the 12's it has become a standard on all the new RC's coming out now and also conversions are being made for the old ones. But is it really that bad to entertain other ideas like locking the wheels at the hub if only to give us one less to worry about, maybe a designer might stop by and think maybe there is something to this and maybe not, but one can hope.

No patronizing or condescension please, I started this thread to share my experience not to start drama, where is this hostility coming from. I don't see where you get off accusing me being experienced, I am neither experienced nor an expert in such matters and if I haven't stress it enough as I mentioned above "take it with a grain of salt", "personal preference", "that's just my opinion". I am merely throwing ideas out there, you either take it for what it is or move on and let the idea die. No need to shoot it down condescension and contempt, I am just exploring possibilities. I would have rather you said good luck with that and went your merry way.

But just the same TY for your input.

[mOOsE]

dunno man, my kit ones seem far more robust
http://www.axialracing.com/assets/pr...s_17_800px.jpg

There is no wobble or play, although you could shim it for some of the added movement behind the hex. Not necessary though. One downside I'd give the Kit version though, if you want to run extended 17mm's it looks like you will have to ream the inner holes where it looks like the RTR axle is slimmer. I could be wrong though.

[BEELZEBOB]

The point of the shim, has nothing to do with the hub/hex.



In the yeti xl kit, or the rtr, or the 10th scale yeti, the wraith, scx10, xr10 and my old ax10,

there is enough play with the CVD between the out drive and the axle stud to cause "slop"

As a man I appreciate tight things.


So a washer fixes the slop.

As you can see in my pictures, the difference between the rtr and the kit is not only the hex, but the entire axle stub.


They don't even appear to assemble the same way.

[Damnir]

Originally Posted by beelzebob

as a man i appreciate tight things.

lol!