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P-J 02-05-2015 08:19 AM

Rear axle options and strength
 
I'm torn, Between going with a Vanquish replacement aluminum housing, and all aluminum parts, or getting a Vanquish Rock jock centered rear assembly or, sticking with the stock plastic housing and aluminum lock outs?

The Rock jock looks the coolest, but at the end of the day I don't really care. The downfalls with this axle are having to flip the front diff and re program the ESC to spin backwards as well as the 175$ price tag.... is there any negatives drivetrain wise to reversing the ESC/motor? Is this axle actually stronger??? I don't really seem to see vanquish claim its a stronger axle?

The aluminum replacement housing has the benefit of not needing the front diff flipped, or the ESC reversed but once again is the strength increase worth the 150-200$ price tag once the diff, brackets, bearing caps, cover ect is bought?

The plastic housing has a few advantages, its in there, its cheap to replace, it seems to hold up and its lighter...

So I guess after all my ramblings, what is the consensus? Have people been breaking rear diff housings? do the rock jocks hold up? Does reversing the ESC/motor have any draw backs?

Thanks :)

winnerone23 02-05-2015 08:30 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
I have VP housings.. There stronger.. But.... If I wouldn't of for a steal on them, I wouldn't own them..

With that said.. Dlux modded stock housings are the way to go..

My parts list: Dlux modded housing, beef tubes, VP bearing caps, VP lockouts, HH Torquemaster spool, UD gears.. Done.
Way cheaper, just as strong! Plus the added benefit of a 13mm bearing (which lasts Way longer then stock) and better/tighter gear mesh, with the Dlux housing.

DickyT 02-05-2015 08:31 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
The Currie axles are indeed very strong, as is everything VP makes. The extra price over their aluminum AR60 housing is due to being an official licensed product.

Reversing the ESC and motor has no effect at all, unless you are running a brushed motor with advanced timing. In which case you would want to retard the timing the same amount as the advance, so when run in reverse signal it still has the advance. Brushless is a non issue, it is just how the signal is interpreted.

The plastic housings hold up fine. I have had them on my Wraith for 2 1/2 years now. In that time I have broken several stubs on the front and even broke a vp knuckle, but the housings are still the ones I built from the kit.

It boild down to budget and personal preference. If my budget allowed, I would have the Curries under everything, I love the looks!

The DLUX housings and Truss are a great option, bullet proof and the truss is just bad ass artwork in functional form!

gbean 02-05-2015 08:44 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
... except VP cms for scx10... I've seen two break in the last month.
But at least they take care of their people.
The broken posts were spaced free of charge.

SteveC6R 02-05-2015 09:44 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Hard to beat the strength and looks of a Currie. "thumbsup"

http://i.imgur.com/ODOIamG.jpg

If you go the plastic route do yourself a favor and get the Dlux housings. On a side note I saw three stock housings break in my local club last year, one on a Yeti, two on a Wraith.

DickyT 02-05-2015 09:50 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC6R (Post 5136837)
Hard to beat the strength and looks of a Currie. "thumbsup"

http://i.imgur.com/ODOIamG.jpg

If you go the plastic route do yourself a favor and get the Dlux housings. On a side note I saw three stock housings break in my local club last year, one on a Yeti, two on a Wraith.

They really look great, I will have a set someday under my next trail rig project. But that is a long term project with a ton of body work needed. At least a year out before I have to worry about the cost of 2 currie axles.

Mr Hyde 02-05-2015 10:47 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
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Carter fab centered rear axle

scott1981 02-05-2015 05:49 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
i am adding this to the stock housing to strengthen the plastic housing with minimal investment. still will need the alum lock outs

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gdb85 02-05-2015 05:53 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott1981 (Post 5137335)
i am adding this to the stock housing to strengthen the plastic housing with minimal investment. still will need the alum lock outs

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That's a great way to go about it my man. What you should do if it's in the budget is to add a Dlux U4 rear truss. It ties everything together very nicely and would make it as bullet proof as an aluminum housing. "thumbsup"

scott1981 02-05-2015 06:08 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gdb85 (Post 5137337)
That's a great way to go about it my man. What you should do if it's in the budget is to add a Dlux U4 rear truss. It ties everything together very nicely and would make it as bullet proof as an aluminum housing. "thumbsup"

Sounds like a great suggestion. i am having a hard time finding it, happen to have a link?

gdb85 02-05-2015 06:22 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Here you go, you may need his upper links also. "thumbsup"

DLUX FAB | products


Go into crawler parts & scroll for Wraith, Yeti & XR and you'll find what you need.

DickyT 02-05-2015 06:27 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gdb85 (Post 5137337)
That's a great way to go about it my man. What you should do if it's in the budget is to add a Dlux U4 rear truss. It ties everything together very nicely and would make it as bullet proof as an aluminum housing. "thumbsup"

Not only does it tie everything together nicely and strengthen the axle as a whole. It just looks bad ass. Artwork in truss form.

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3wcd4yli.jpg

http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/...pstqinuxay.jpg

Mine is cut from G10 rather than CF, Erik says it is even stronger than CF and, well, I'm me... Strong is good!

Justin82 02-05-2015 06:45 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
I went with the rc4wd aluminum ar60, comes with lockouts and aluminum locker brackets(exact name?) for about 80 bucks off eBay.
Fit and finish is excellent and not having to purchase lockouts and brackets are a bonus

Sh0rtBus 02-05-2015 06:47 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
That's the route I'm going, too. After I get my steering squared away, the truss is next on the list.

2-shot 02-05-2015 07:19 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by winnerone23 (Post 5136770)
I have VP housings.. There stronger.. But.... If I wouldn't of for a steal on them, I wouldn't own them..

With that said.. Dlux modded stock housings are the way to go..

My parts list: Dlux modded housing, beef tubes, VP bearing caps, VP lockouts, HH Torquemaster spool, UD gears.. Done.
Way cheaper, just as strong! Plus the added benefit of a 13mm bearing (which lasts Way longer then stock) and better/tighter gear mesh, with the Dlux housing.

As much as you "baby" your rigs, how would you know if those parts will be durable??? :lmao:
Just messing with ya T!!! "thumbsup"

dubfreak 02-05-2015 07:47 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
gcm in canada make a centered rear diff for the yeti with the 5x13x4 pinion bearing option and is so clean give it a look litle pricey but so hot

gbean 02-05-2015 09:46 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Found out tonight my LHS has centered curries for the beat deal ever!
I know what I'm doing tomorrow...

SteveC6R 02-05-2015 10:31 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
The GCM axles are also very nice, a buddy of mine had them on his Wraith. "thumbsup"

Rob L 02-05-2015 11:41 PM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
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Integy center diff and GPM off-center. I've used them both and now have a Vanquish off-center (not the Currie).

Zombi 02-06-2015 03:35 AM

Re: Rear axle options and strength
 
Buy cheap, buy twice. Stick with the quality stuff, VP for the win.

http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps566b1817.jpg


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