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Cheez 04-29-2017 05:50 PM

From the "tub up"
 
Has anybody built a Yeti from the "Tub up"?
Meaning instead of purchasing a kit and upgrading from there, building a Yeti from scratch including upgrades.
I've built a Yeti Xl kit, upgraded my Yeti Xl RTR, and upgraded my Yeti, now considering building a Yeti from the ground up.
Can it be done? Is it cost feasible?

spoo76 04-29-2017 06:36 PM

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CoolRunning 04-29-2017 07:03 PM

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There are many little parts and screws etc that it might not be feasible. Have a look at the diagram in the manual and start pricing the little bits...I think it would quickly add up to something silly and make it financially a bad idea.

I'd just buy a second hand Yeti on the cheap and use that for the base personally (this is what I did anyway). Then you can spend up on the important stuff.

Cheez 04-29-2017 08:16 PM

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What did you pay for a second hand Yeti and where did you get it?

Rumpelhardt 04-30-2017 10:14 AM

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I thought about it but it looked to me like it would have been a colossal pain sorcing all the parts and much more expensive.

mtr1514 04-30-2017 01:59 PM

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I thought of this as well and it wasn't worth it after just the body, chassis and hardware. The next best thing is starting off with a used Yeti and going from there. I was about to do that before I found an open box Yeti kit on Amazon. Paid $250 for it.

Cheez 04-30-2017 06:10 PM

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Thanks guys, sounds like it's not a feasible idea.
I was curious if anyone has actually done it.

SCREAMER 05-02-2017 10:43 PM

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I've done it twice, best way to build a Yeti and not buy a bunch of throw away parts. The entire front end to include the diff and all steering requires replacement. The stock trans is OK but can benefit from several reliability upgrades especially with the spur. All the stock links, shocks, and the trailing arms need to be replaced with anything not made from wet noodle. The rear axle needs Axial's full width kit as a minimum strength upgrade so you don't have to run 2 inch long hubs and bend axles with every rollover and landing. RTR electronics are OK but there's plenty of better choices out there for cheaper and sensored in case you plan to "crawl". All you need to do is go on eBay and start looking for all the new chop shop parts. You can get a great start on a pretty complete tub and rear subframe for $30 shipped. The kit instructions can be downloaded from Axial's website for free.

Cheez 05-03-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SCREAMER (Post 5703391)
I've done it twice, best way to build a Yeti and not buy a bunch of throw away parts. The entire front end to include the diff and all steering requires replacement. The stock trans is OK but can benefit from several reliability upgrades especially with the spur. All the stock links, shocks, and the trailing arms need to be replaced with anything not made from wet noodle. The rear axle needs Axial's full width kit as a minimum strength upgrade so you don't have to run 2 inch long hubs and bend axles with every rollover and landing. RTR electronics are OK but there's plenty of better choices out there for cheaper and sensored in case you plan to "crawl". All you need to do is go on eBay and start looking for all the new chop shop parts. You can get a great start on a pretty complete tub and rear subframe for $30 shipped. The kit instructions can be downloaded from Axial's website for free.

I may just give it a shot.
Any build threads or pictures out there?

SCREAMER 05-03-2017 02:13 PM

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Tons of build threads here. I think you should definitely do it. You'll enjoy building it yourself with only good parts and you'll be surprised at how easy it was when you're done. See when you buy take off parts like the complete tub, it comes with everything attached like the little lids for the receiver dry box, the gaskets, most if not all the screws. Just make sure you buy new and compare all your options before deciding on which tub. Both times I started a Yeti build for myself and a friend, I got complete tubs with subframe brand new pulled from an RTR for $30 shipped. Everything else is even cheaper or aftermarket. Rpm arms are cheap, Traxxas big bores are only $18 shipped and use Axial springs. You can find a new transmission for $40-$50. The cage and body can be found for $40-$50. Build everything on it to suit your specific purpose and save cash not buying all the horrible stock parts. "thumbsup"

SCREAMER 05-03-2017 02:33 PM

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This is what you're looking for as a good start. All brand new, comes with all the hardware and a few extras which is why the price is a bit higher. This guy doesn't do free shipping either so with a bit of patience, you could find cheaper but might not be as fully inclusive. This has links, the front upper chassis/diff and steering brace and a few other things. I think this would be the perfect start for you. Be aware that just a new tub from Axial is $30 so this is a great deal for everything it includes.

Cheez 05-03-2017 03:04 PM

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:ror:Gonna do it!
It'll be a couple of months before I can get started.
I'll probably use this thread for the build and I'm sure I'll need help along the way. It will probably take quite awhile but I'm looking forward to something fun and challenging.
Thanks in advance to everyone who helps along the way.

Here's the family I'll be adding to.


http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1493845322

SCREAMER 05-03-2017 03:16 PM

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Excellent. I'm sure you'll be very satisfied with the build. Post up questions if you get stuck, there's plenty of knowledgeable guys here to get you sorted out.

Cheez 06-05-2017 03:14 PM

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So it begins... this is what I'm starting with.
No kit, no rtr, completely from scratch. I'll appreciate any and all help and advice along the way "thumbsup"
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496697210

Cheez 06-05-2017 03:17 PM

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So it begins... this is what I'm starting with.
No kit, no rtr, completely from scratch. I'll appreciate any and all help and advice along the way "thumbsup"
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496697210

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496697210

Cheez 06-05-2017 03:35 PM

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Happy to see the mailman! Getting the party started:ror:
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496698512

CoolRunning 06-05-2017 05:49 PM

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Maybe throw a dollar amount in there (one that itemises the build part by part) as you go, so guys have an clear idea of what a bespoke, from the chassis Yeti could cost in its entirety.

I imagine it's going to be an awesome truck!

Hillbilly63026 06-05-2017 08:55 PM

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I have done it started with a bearing kit knk screw kit and tub

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Hillbilly63026 06-05-2017 08:58 PM

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And download kit manual

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Deadbydawn 06-05-2017 09:47 PM

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Whoa! This is gonna be awesome!!!!!!!

Cheez 06-05-2017 09:58 PM

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Didn't really want to lock the front diff, but EXO HD differential output shafts (AX30381) are discontinued. What's up with that?
My concern is that I have Vanquish axles coming and they don't recommend using them with locked diff. Any thoughts out there?
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496698512

Cheez 06-05-2017 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolRunning (Post 5715546)
Maybe throw a dollar amount in there (one that itemises the build part by part) as you go, so guys have an clear idea of what a bespoke, from the chassis Yeti could cost in its entirety.

I imagine it's going to be an awesome truck!

Keeping track of the $$$ will give me the heebie jeebies and cold feet. I actually have a modest budget... you guys know what these parts cost:roll:

Cheez 06-05-2017 10:09 PM

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http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496698512

Cheez 06-06-2017 10:56 AM

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Not a big fan of aluminum posts, I'll have to keep the shiny side up.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1496768181

Cheez 06-11-2017 01:06 PM

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Decided to unlock the front, gears and gaskets are in the mail.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497207968

Cheez 06-11-2017 02:19 PM

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:xUgh!
B/O gasket and caphead screws finally in the mail. Building from scratch will be a slow process.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497212335

Cheez 06-11-2017 02:39 PM

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http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497212335
No gasket, no screws....but looking sweet "thumbsup"

Cheez 06-14-2017 06:31 PM

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Still waiting on gaskets and capheads to button it up.:cry:
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497486611
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497486611

DavidH 06-14-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheez (Post 5715634)
Keeping track of the $$$ will give me the heebie jeebies and cold feet. I actually have a modest budget... you guys know what these parts cost:roll:

Not keeping track isn't going to save you any money. :lmao:

I wish you all the best with your build, but I think your use of the 'scratch build' phrase lacks accuracy, if you are not going to be fabricating any of the parts yourself. Perhaps a more apt description would be 'mail-order build'.

To me, 'scratch build' invokes images such as this:

https://i.imgur.com/F0qzOQo.jpg

Cheez 06-14-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidH (Post 5718729)
Not keeping track isn't going to save you any money. :lmao:

I wish you all the best with your build, but I think your use of the 'scratch build' phrase lacks accuracy, if you are not going to be fabricating any of the parts yourself. Perhaps a more apt description would be 'mail-order build'.

To me, 'scratch build' invokes images such as this:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...82&oe=59A1470C

I bow down to your keen sense of accuracy, I'm just a humble Joe who doesn't have access to lathes, cnc, or any of the other stuff in a machine shop. I get immense satisfaction out of sitting at my bench and putting things together.
I didn't title it fabrication build, but I'll try to edit to mail order build, should make everyone happy. In the end I appreciate all the input given to me to make the best toy to play with.

Cheez 06-14-2017 09:06 PM

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(Scratch) was the wrong word . Tub up , no kit no RTR, is more accurate.
And seriously, how do you incorporate the cost of a machine shop into a build?

DavidH 06-15-2017 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheez (Post 5718741)
I bow down to your keen sense of accuracy, I'm just a humble Joe who doesn't have access to lathes, cnc, or any of the other stuff in a machine shop. I get immense satisfaction out of sitting at my bench and putting things together.

Don't sell yourself short. While I have a decent little machine shop in my garage, I find that, working with aluminum and ABS, there is plenty that can be crafted with a hacksaw/jigsaw, drill, and some proper hand tools. A sturdy vice bolted to a bench goes a long way.

Or this this case, you could have simply started with a kit.
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I didn't title it fabrication build, but I'll try to edit to mail order build, should make everyone happy. In the end I appreciate all the input given to me to make the best toy to play with.
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Originally Posted by Cheez (Post 5718744)
(Scratch) was the wrong word . Tub up , no kit no RTR, is more accurate.

What I like about 'mail-order build' description is that it alludes to the $$ it is costing you to build it. :D

I am building a yeti from the 'plate up' (pictured above) but I am taking a different path, as I simply purchased a kit from a local dealer that was unhappy with Axial and was blowing out his kits. Everything I need is either in the kit or I can fabricate it on the bench out of aluminum or ABS.
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And seriously, how do you incorporate the cost of a machine shop into a build?
I am fortunate to have started my shop when I was young, but it's easy, just like the sport fisherman that estimates the cost of each fish caught by dividing the price of his new boat by the number of fish caught. :)

Cheez 06-17-2017 06:23 PM

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For "haters" yes this is mail order. For me, my family,and friends this is documenting and reaching out for help when needed
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1497745368

Cheez 06-21-2017 09:35 AM

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DavidH 06-21-2017 07:24 PM

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At this point, have you done anything for the front hinge pins? The plastic front arms are easy enough to sleeve (I've done my own) but with the aluminum arms you would need to be very careful.

Cheez 06-21-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidH (Post 5720832)
At this point, have you done anything for the front hinge pins? The plastic front arms are easy enough to sleeve (I've done my own) but with the aluminum arms you would need to be very careful.

Not sure what you mean by "have I done anything with the front hinge pins ". Came together very smoothly, I'm using the plastic hex nuts off of parts tree from my rtr for now. Metal m3 locking hex nuts are on the way if I decide to swap them out.

DavidH 06-22-2017 11:25 AM

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Not sure what you mean by "have I done anything with the front hinge pins ". Came together very smoothly, I'm using the plastic hex nuts off of parts tree from my rtr for now. Metal m3 locking hex nuts are on the way if I decide to swap them out.

Depends on how you drive, and what you hit, but the front hinge pin is a weak point in the front suspension, even with the aluminum arms.

I have only bent one pin so far, but after did the mod while I had the truck apart, for the cost of a 12" section of steel brake line ($2). You may want to do the mod while you are at this point.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...inge-pins.html

Cheez 06-22-2017 01:29 PM

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Depends on how you drive, and what you hit, but the front hinge pin is a weak point in the front suspension, even with the aluminum arms.

I have only bent one pin so far, but after did the mod while I had the truck apart, for the cost of a 12" section of steel brake line ($2). You may want to do the mod while you are at this point.

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...inge-pins.html

Gotcha, I've replaced a couple. I have a bag of them on the bench.
My driving style is /will be rock racing almost identical to the video on Axial's web site.
Here's what my rtr's underside looks like.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1498159583
I Read the thread, are we talking about metal tubing or braided brake line as a sleeve?

DavidH 06-22-2017 03:00 PM

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Gotcha, I've replaced a couple. I have a bag of them on the bench.
My driving style is /will be rock racing almost identical to the video on Axial's web site.
Here's what my rtr's underside looks like.
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/attac...1&d=1498159583
I Read the thread, are we talking about metal tubing or braided brake line as a sleeve?

Double-walled steel tubing; I used this:

Domestic Poly-Armour PVF Steel Brake Line 3/16 x 12 - AGS Company AGS Company

I cut it using a regular pipe cutter, for copper pipe.

Cheez 06-22-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidH (Post 5721027)
Double-walled steel tubing; I used this:

Domestic Poly-Armour PVF Steel Brake Line 3/16 x 12 - AGS Company AGS Company

I cut it using a regular pipe cutter, for copper pipe.

Thanks for the info.


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