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05-29-2015, 04:29 PM | #1 |
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| TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Now announcing our latest product line, Spool style transmission outdrives for Axial Transmissions! Co-designed by John Holmes and Don Eidson, these are far stronger than regular outdrives and lighter too! They take the stress off of those little screws that overdrive/ underdrive gearing creates, and are made with the highest quality material and tolerance. While supplies last, stock length SCX style comes with lightening holes and 6 screw holes for twice the shear strength! High quality domestic 4340 Chromoly MADE IN THE USA at Holmes Hobbies! Spool design reduces screw breakage caused by overdrive/underdrive stress One year warranty Weight varies by model For more info and pricing on the full product line of TorqueMaster Outdrives, visit our site. Holmes Hobbies LLC Last edited by JohnRobHolmes; 09-05-2016 at 01:58 PM. |
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05-29-2015, 05:49 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: san jose
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
These sure look like Crawler Innovations outputs?
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05-29-2015, 06:29 PM | #3 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Crawler Innovations are two piece, shaft on each side of the gear. These look to be 1 solid shaft with a retainer ring. Looks like a better design to me. Last edited by Norton; 05-29-2015 at 06:33 PM. |
06-02-2015, 03:30 AM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: williamsport
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
I can't wait to put my next order in.. A couple of these are coming home to me! Great work JRH and Don! |
06-02-2015, 09:26 PM | #5 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Do tell, 1beatjeep! If you have some recently purchased outputs from CI, it would have a lot of the same design feel since I made them. But the measurements and construction is unique to Eddies product. TorqueMaster outdrives are solid shaft connecting the front and rear axles together, it is the only product that does this. We will be working this week on an assembly video and pics showing how they work. The lock ring side is a little thinner than stock spacing on SCX models, we will provide shims for best fit in both aftermarket and stock cases. Thanks Troy! It took a lot of work and effort to program and learn the machining of these. It is tough to beat the feeling of bringing design into fabricated parts from start to finish! Don had the spool concept and sent a drawing. I took it from there, added tolerances and tweaked dims. The hard part was making a machine actually cut those dims. Every driveshaft needed it's own unique path to account for bar flex during machining. |
06-02-2015, 09:32 PM | #6 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Barstock, sectioned off half cut, fully cut parts. It is one of the few parts I make by rechucking the material back into the machine. I much prefer full automation making my parts, but these were too rad to get lazy on Last edited by JohnRobHolmes; 06-02-2015 at 10:05 PM. |
06-02-2015, 09:47 PM | #7 |
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It's back!
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06-02-2015, 10:03 PM | #8 |
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06-02-2015, 10:05 PM | #9 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
I can see it fine!
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06-02-2015, 10:06 PM | #10 |
owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down!
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Image uploaded here so all can see
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06-02-2015, 11:33 PM | #11 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Just got mine on the way, Thanks John |
06-03-2015, 04:10 AM | #12 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Awesome product Why are stock length SCX style outputs the only ones that come with lightening holes and 6 screw holes? . |
06-03-2015, 05:10 AM | #13 |
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06-03-2015, 06:49 AM | #14 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
The lightening is not an easy or fast process, nor is machining them with 6 holes. The long versions would have a much higher price if done that way.
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06-27-2015, 02:04 PM | #15 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Blast from the past! Was rummaging through old parts bins and found my first 5mm extended output. All the way back from 2006, it was made for stealth trannies before axial was around! Five years before the "invention" of this style output, so I hear Just look at that smeary finish (Ok, so photo doesn't look so bad, but I promise it bugs me being a machinist) and lack of cross pins. Back when set screws and stampede trannies were the norm! You newbs with your stock replacement parts, you have it easy I tell ya! I'll keep making it easy for you too with these parts. Thanks for the support with these. Stock length has been very popular. I'll try to make the next run lightened with extra screw holes again, seems to really make yall happy! Last edited by JohnRobHolmes; 06-27-2015 at 02:09 PM. |
06-27-2015, 02:08 PM | #16 |
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photo or it didn't happen!
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06-27-2015, 02:16 PM | #17 |
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Thank you! For making family time the most fun it can be! I tortured my hh solid lightned diff today. I will be buying more!
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06-27-2015, 02:23 PM | #18 |
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Looking good these are the nicest i've seen on the market. |
07-05-2015, 11:04 AM | #19 | |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Understand but did you get the same idea from CI? Quote:
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07-05-2015, 02:24 PM | #20 |
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| Re: TorqueMaster Outdrives for Axial Transmissions
Thanks for the kind words! The support is much appreciated! I made an extended output in 2006 as mentioned a few posts up, two years before another vendor started making extended versions. The idea in any form is not new or novel, I don't remember (or care) if is is my original concept but it seems that way searching back through old posts. Gearing down so I could add more voltage was my reason for making it, back when sensorless brushless outrunners and cheap machine wounds needed that extra gearing and voltage. Since that one was for a stealth tranny, it bolts right into an axial tranny too. Yotachump made his sets to the same lengths as mine around 2008, I don't remember if it was by chance or if I shared ideas. I certainly bought plenty of his parts, and he was more than capable of knowing how to clear a fat driveshaft past a spur gear . After he stopped making them, Supershafty and CI picked up around 2011 with those same lengths and changed for different driveshafts. After I got the production lathe, it was time to look back at outputs. Don pushed me pretty hard to make some, and it was his idea to make them spool style. It just took time to figure out how to make em on my machine, within the tooling limitations and programming language. There's your RCC history lesson for today |
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