09-25-2005, 05:02 PM | #1 |
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Ive seen alotta people lock the A-arms on their RC making a solid axle with alot more clearance. My ? is does aneyone do this with 1:1 crawlers?? If not why not ?
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09-25-2005, 05:16 PM | #2 |
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no because: 1. ifs is weak 2. They would have to 4 link it or something |
09-25-2005, 06:07 PM | #3 |
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I've wondered the same thing myself. My best thoughts would be the axle assembly of a locked IFS setup in 1:1 would weigh too much, the CV joints are weaker (?), and tractor axles would probably be just as costly and more robust.
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09-25-2005, 10:25 PM | #4 |
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If you're going to the trouble of a 3 link why not just put a stronger lighter solid axel in, if you want more center clearance have the axel built with the pumpkin to one side. It'd be weaker, heavier and more complex than a solid axel.
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09-25-2005, 10:31 PM | #5 | |
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09-25-2005, 10:32 PM | #6 |
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Yeah thats why they make unimog axles.
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09-25-2005, 10:37 PM | #7 |
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Yeah but lotsa parts for crawlers are custom made at any scale. Im sure it has Its drawbacks but Its got to have advantages too !
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09-26-2005, 01:40 PM | #9 | |
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The fab would be way cheaper than trying to get the ifs to work, and would more than likely be more reliable. | |
09-26-2005, 04:25 PM | #10 | |
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Maybe he doesn't want to run what every truck out there is running. Quote:
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09-26-2005, 07:29 PM | #12 |
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this has actually been done with H1 hummer axles,i'll see if i can get some pics of the vehicle,i believe its 3 link F/R not sure though.
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09-26-2005, 07:30 PM | #13 | |
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09-26-2005, 07:58 PM | #14 |
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there was one for sale on auto trader a few months back I saw when I was looking to buy a hummer. the axles were on a custom tube chassis. it looked pretty good but you gotta wonder why he was selling it. |
09-26-2005, 08:16 PM | #15 | |
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Why go through the trouble? For the trouble, you would have to make most the same modifications you would have to make to SAS the rig. As since most IFS setups are < or = to 1/2 ton rigs with SFAs, why not just swap over to a SFA setup? For the strength comparison factor, grab yourself a D44 sa out of a bone yard, and forget all the fab crap that you would have to do to "solidify" an IFS setup. | |
09-26-2005, 09:10 PM | #16 |
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thats a good point. but if you could do it and not worry about money and just work on it and see what the strong points and weak points were I think that would be kinda cool. I don't know about anybody els but I kinda like working on things to see if they can work better. You could also do a set up like how Walker Evens did his IFS & IRS rig but lock it out kinda like the custom maxx axle set ups w/o the stock arms. :Walker Evens used a D60 center section w/ flanges on the axle sides and used CV half shafts. all the way up he had 30 inches of ground clearance on 40 MT/Rs |
09-26-2005, 09:38 PM | #17 | |
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09-26-2005, 10:01 PM | #18 |
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my buddy just blew up his ttb on his f-150 and thats how much he is getting his 44 for. I don't have to worry about all that ifs crap anyways I have a D60 and S10.5. I wouldn't trade a SA for ifs set up ever they suck @ss. but I still think that if some one tried it. that would be really cool. and yes $ is always an issue (I don't even have enough $ to replace my bald @ss tsl's) and most likely anyone who would even want to try doing this wouldn't have enough money. If I got the big bucks in rockcrawling (maybe when Im older) and could just build a rig and do some R&D on it like WE did on his rig I would probably try doing it. but then again isn't that how most parts that you buy now come into the market. Last edited by hacked_hummer; 09-26-2005 at 10:03 PM. |
09-27-2005, 07:19 AM | #19 |
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No one said it would be easy but it is possible. I still say that if your building a crawler your gunna be fabbing alotta stuff aneyway. Where theirs a welder theirs a way ! Chevy uses upper and lower control arms but ford has the split axle , that might be alot easier and better being Ford
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09-27-2005, 08:27 AM | #20 | |
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the ford ttb is what it is called and I wouldn't trust them crawling, My buddy just blew his up and he only has a 4" and 33s. anyway it would be like making a real SFA into a locked out IFS (realy hard). | |
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