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Old 06-28-2009, 09:46 PM   #21
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Can't the military just shoot him and blame it on terrorists or illegal immigrants? From what I read he is using the poor people (like most scumbag Presidents) to further his agenda and since nobody cares what poor people think.. Nobody important would miss him, correct?

Umm.. That could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard man. Think tank don't think much does it?


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Thanks, they are trying to install a new leftist goverment before the actual president leaves office in jan 2010, and they also want to dispose of our constitution so that the president can be reelected as many times as he wants, also after the constitution gets canned he gets full power to rule as he wishes.

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great...BHO and HRC have weighed in...schmucks:

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Yeah, Obama, Clinton, Fidel Castro, and Hugo Chavez support the guy.


It is nice to see that the military sided with the people to defend the Constitution instead of blindly following orders from your Pres.

The Coup could go either way. The fact that it was done in the interest of country and not in the interest of an individual is a positive note. It is the actions of the general population and how they work with the military to settle/establish things that will set the tone of things to come.

From your first post...

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Today the president and some few thousand followers stormed into the Honduran air force base in Tegucigalpa, where the illegal voting ballots were stored, the military didn't pose any threat to the civilians
I wouldn't expect to Coup to be more than just temporary situation where the military is standing up to defend the Constitution and country that they swore to defend when they enlisted. They are obviously working for the same goal as the population.

The real problem will lie with tools like Chavez. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...090628?sp=true

Stay safe, Carlos.
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Umm.. That could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard man. Think tank don't think much does it?


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Brainfart.

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The real problem will lie with tools like Chavez. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...090628?sp=true

Stay safe, Carlos.
X2 on the military on sticking up for the people.
Too bad that would never happen here.

The real problem is the tools in Washington would support Chavez and let him get away with it.
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Umm.. That could be the dumbest thing I've ever heard man. Think tank don't think much does it?



Keep your head down and keep the fam safe!!!
Like he said, brainfart, and thanks Homer

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Yeah, Obama, Clinton, Fidel Castro, and Hugo Chavez support the guy.


It is nice to see that the military sided with the people to defend the Constitution instead of blindly following orders from your Pres.

The Coup could go either way. The fact that it was done in the interest of country and not in the interest of an individual is a positive note. It is the actions of the general population and how they work with the military to settle/establish things that will set the tone of things to come.

From your first post...



I wouldn't expect to Coup to be more than just temporary situation where the military is standing up to defend the Constitution and country that they swore to defend when they enlisted. They are obviously working for the same goal as the population.

The real problem will lie with tools like Chavez. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...090628?sp=true

Stay safe, Carlos.
Thanks Jason, although congress already swore in a temporary president until elections on November this year, what i can't get over is that every single country is against Zelaya being removed from office, there are already sanctions on their way against Honduras if we don't reinstate the nut job, WTF, aren't countries supposed to be sovereign and independent?? why is everyone siding with Zelaya? he had no backing from his own fellow honduran citizens, what gives?
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:26 AM   #25
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Check this crap out

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090629/..._honduras_coup

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras – A military coup has divided Honduras between two leaders — one recognized by world bodies and another backed by the country's congress, courts and military.
Presidents from around Latin America were gathering in Nicaragua for meetings Monday on how to resolve the first coup in Central America in at least 16 years, while the European Union offered to help start talks between the two sides.
The Obama administration and European governments denounced the coup, but Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took center stage in the region, casting the dispute as a rebellion by the region's poor.
"If the oligarchies break the rules of the game as they have done, the people have the right to resistance and combat, and we are with them," Chavez said in the Nicaraguan capital, Managua.
Troops with riot shields surrounded the presidential palace on Monday and armored military vehicles were parked in front.
But soldiers made no attempt to clear away about 200 pro-Zelaya protesters who were burning tires and other debris, as well as blocking streets with downed trees and billboards. Those are his supporters-200"We want out elected and democratic president, not this other one that the world doesn't recognize," said Marco Gallo, a 50-year-old retired teacher, who said he was on his way to join the protests in front of the palace.
There is a deep rift between the outside world — which is clamoring for the return of democratically elected, but largely unpopular and soon-to-leave-office President Manuel Zelaya — and congressionally designated successor Roberto Micheletti.
Micheletti rejected any outside interference and declared a two-night curfew, while Chavez vowed that "we will overthrow (Micheletti)."WTF
Zelaya was seized by soldiers and hustled aboard a plane to Costa Rica early Sunday, just hours before a rogue referendum Zelaya had called in defiance of the courts and Congress, and which his opponents said was an attempt to remain in power after his term ends Jan. 27.
The Honduran constitution limits presidents to a single 4-year term, and Zelaya's opponents feared he would use the referendum results to try to run again, just as Chavez reformed his country's constitution to be able to seek re-election repeatedly.Can you say dictator?
Micheletti said the army acted on orders from the courts, and the ouster was carried out "to defend respect for the law and the principles of democracy." But he threatened to jail Zelaya and put him on trial if he returned. Micheletti also hit back at Chavez, saying "nobody, not Barack Obama and much less Hugo Chavez, has any right to threaten this country."
Earlier, Obama said in a statement he was "deeply concerned" about the events, and U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Zelaya's arrest should be condemned.
"I call on all political and social actors in Honduras to respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter," Obama's statement read.
For those conditions to be met, Zelaya must be returned to power, U.S. officials said.
Two senior Obama administration officials told reporters that U.S. diplomats were working to ensure Zelaya's safe return.I am just
The officials said the Obama administration in recent days had warned Honduran power players, including the armed forces, that the U.S. would not support a coup, but Honduran military leaders stopped taking their calls.

In Brussels, the EU's External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner urged "all parties involved to resolve their differences peacefully." She said the EU's executive Commission "stands ready" to help start the talks.
Officials said EU envoys were meeting their Central American counterparts in Brussels Monday to discuss the coup and what implications it could have on free trade negotiations between the EU and Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama.
EU nations refused to recognize the coup and demanded a return of the deposed president.
Zelaya said soldiers seized him in his pajamas at gunpoint in what he called a "coup" and a "kidnapping." The United Nations, the Organization of American States and governments throughout Latin America called for Zelaya to be allowed to resume office.
"I want to return to my country. I am president of Honduras," Zelaya said Sunday before traveling to Managua on one of Chavez's planes for regional meetings of Central American leaders and Chavez's leftist alliance of nations, known as ALBA.
Some of Zelaya's Cabinet members were detained by soldiers or police following his ouster, according to former government official Armando Sarmiento. And the rights group Freedom of Expression said leftist legislator Cesar Ham had died in a shootout with soldiers trying to detain him.
A Honduran Security Department spokesman said he had no information on Ham.
Armored military vehicles with machine guns rolled through the streets of the Honduran capital and soldiers seized the national palace, but no other incidents of violence were reported.
Sunday afternoon, Congress voted to accept what it said was Zelaya's letter of resignation, with even the president's former allies turning against him. Micheletti, who as leader of Congress is in line to fill any vacancy in the presidency, was sworn in to serve until Zelaya's term ends.
Micheletti belongs to Zelaya's Liberal Party, but opposed the president in the referendum.
Micheletti acknowledged that he had not spoken to any Latin American heads of state, but said, "I'm sure that 80 to 90 percent of the Honduran population is happy with what happened today."
The Organization of American States approved a resolution Sunday demanding "the immediate, safe and unconditional return of the constitutional president, Manuel Zelaya."
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the coup and "urges the reinstatement of the democratically elected representatives of the country," said his spokeswoman, Michele Montas.
The Rio Group, which comprises 23 nations from the hemisphere, issued a statement condemning "the coup d'etat" and calling for Zelaya's "immediate and unconditional restoration to his duties."
And Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou canceled a planned visit to Honduras, one of just 23 countries that still recognize the self-governing island.
Coups were common in Central America until the 1980s, but Sunday's ouster was the first military power grab in Latin America since a brief, failed 2002 coup against Chavez. It was the first military ouster of a Central American president since 1993, when Guatemalan military officials refused to accept President Jorge Serrano's attempt to seize absolute power, forcing him to resign

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Old 06-29-2009, 08:49 AM   #26
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great...BHO and HRC have weighed in...schmucks:
I could have told you that they would agree with a Dictatorship style government....
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Old 06-29-2009, 06:39 PM   #28
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Thanks Nova's ark, i needed something to smile about
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:41 PM   #29
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This is very sad.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/am...oil/index.html
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:03 AM   #30
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More bad news:-(

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/am...oup/index.html

It seems as the O.E.A. is going to cut our country off from the organization, the secretary even came down to our country and the events were explained to him of what led to the presidential succesion, but it seems his only agenda was to reinstall the ousted president which the majority of people don't want back( over 80% of the population), so economic sanctions soon to follow, much like Cuba, only this time it's because we don't want a leftist dictator in power, wtf? how times have changed
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Old 07-04-2009, 10:49 AM   #31
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What a difference an election makes. Bush would have done ya right. Hope your leftist revolution goes better than ours. :-(
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:29 PM   #32
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Hope your leftist revolution goes better than ours. :-(
Haha! Yeah right! Our idiots will help to put that dictator back into office...
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:50 PM   #33
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What a difference an election makes. Bush would have done ya right. Hope your leftist revolution goes better than ours. :-(
I can only think back, of times of republican goverments and no fear of our country of being invaded by leftist goverments...

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Haha! Yeah right! Our idiots will help to put that dictator back into office...
We aren't taking it, the plane that brought back the ousted president as well as several other planes with supporting presidents from argentina, paraguay and ecuador were escorted out of our airspace as they didn't announce they were coming through proper diplomatic channels, i like to really make clear that the vast majority of the people in my country are really glad Zelaya was ousted and we want to get to november this year and elect a new president..hopefully learning from our most recent mistake,
some more news, keep in mind that the coverage is heavily biased in the return of the dictator wannabe and his "cause".

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...oil/index.html
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We aren't taking it, the plane that brought back the ousted president as well as several other planes with supporting presidents from argentina, paraguay and ecuador were escorted out of our airspace as they didn't announce they were coming through proper diplomatic channels, i like to really make clear that the vast majority of the people in my country are really glad Zelaya was ousted and we want to get to november this year and elect a new president..hopefully learning from our most recent mistake
Good job to your military in upholding your constitution!
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Some more news,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_honduras_coup
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Some updates, the costa rican president will be a mediator (Nobel prize winner) , but the dictator wannabe says he's not budging in his position to return to power.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/am...ras/index.html
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Updates, although the mediation has not produced any kind of agreement, it has given other nations to study what happened in my country changing some of their positions, kudos to the republican senators that have acknowledged that this wasn't a military coup and that no one single man can ever be above the law, not even a nation's president.

Check out the pictures of the thousands of protestors against the ousted president, we represent over 85% of the population.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090722/..._honduras_coup
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Sorry to keep bothering with this, i just need to put this out there, this guy doesn't really care about anybody but himself, he is at the Honduras/ Nicaragua border, he just wants people to fight and get killed over him....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090724/..._honduras_coup

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It's no bother at all, Carlos. It's good to get some info straight from the people down there without it being filtered thru the media. Keep 'em coming.

We're pulling for ya buddy.
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He sounds like a chicken shit....

I'm glad your military is still standing up to him.
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