Wow!!!!!!!!!!

[RANOVRU]

Originally Posted by rock hard

Soooooo,if they beat on a person that you personally feel desrves it your ok with it.

If they open up on a person you dont really think desrves it,then you will have pause.

Justice is not to be given by the officers,they are mearly to stop and apprehend the criminal. Its totally ok for them to act simulare to this if there had been a stuggle,and thuse needed to get the criminal into custody.

But the criminal was stopped,to say he deserved what he got cuz of what he did is exactly what the officers probably felt at the time.
And that my sir is exactly the problem

We the people have judges to decide what said justice will be,thats not what the officers job is.
Like I have said before,thank God we have cameras to prove how some officers act.

Its called "swift justice". Judge Judy has a show about it.

It was quite obvious from the video the guy was a bad person. Bad things happen to bad people.

Dude might get raped in jail. Some would say thats not right either.

Ask me if I care....

[TattooKenny]

I wish someone would adress any of the points I made in any of my post A few of you keep making it out like we are some how defending or condoning what the bad guy did. No one is doing that. At the point the bad guy was ejected from the van he was NO LONGER a threat to anyone at that point in time! If you think 5 cops beating a knocked out guy that was face down in a ditch was justified then your just retarded! The guy got 20 years for what he did! I could murder someone and get 1/3 the time he did! So the justice system did it's job!

Believe it or not it's this kind of behavior and actions that make or turn good cops into bad cops! Were they bad cops? I'm sure they were not! Were they wrong that day and acting on emotion? Yes! Because of that 5 families are forever chanced.

They should have shown the same restraint that the cop showed that almost got hit! The fact is that the cop who almost got hit would have been 100% justified in shooting the bad guy when he tried to hit him!

If the bad guy not been ejected from the van and he was still in it the cops would not have rushed in like they did at all! They would have been guns drawn, in a felony stop! They would have been behind doors for cover. Two cops would have approached the suspect. One would cover the suspect while the other cuffed him. End of story! They should have done the same thing here! And we wouldn't be having the argument!

[team3six]

I did Kenny on page one. Its called being human.
Now I am going back to watch Sons of Anarchy for the second time.

Originally Posted by TattooKenny

I wish someone would adress any of the points I made in any of my post A few of you keep making it out like we are some how defending or condoning what the bad guy did. No one is doing that. At the point the bad guy was ejected from the van he was NO LONGER a threat to anyone at that point in time! If you think 5 cops beating a knocked out guy that was face down in a ditch was justified then your just retarded! The guy got 20 years for what he did! I could murder someone and get 1/3 the time he did! So the justice system did it's job!

Believe it or not it's this kind of behavior and actions that make or turn good cops into bad cops! Were they bad cops? I'm sure they were not! Were they wrong that day and acting on emotion? Yes! Because of that 5 families are forever chanced.

They should have shown the same restraint that the cop showed that almost got hit! The fact is that the cop who almost got hit would have been 100% justified in shooting the bad guy when he tried to hit him!

If the bad guy not been ejected from the van and he was still in it the cops would not have rushed in like they did at all! They would have been guns drawn, in a felony stop! They would have been behind doors for cover. Two cops would have approached the suspect. One would cover the suspect while the other cuffed him. End of story! They should have done the same thing here! And we wouldn't be having the argument!

[T-buck]

Originally Posted by TxFire976

I've given my point of view, only a few of us don't see a problem with the ending of the video, atleast they had some restraint and only beat the guy for a few seconds.

You do not belong working at a Police Dept. if this is what you think is right.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by RANOVRU

Its called "swift justice". Judge Judy has a show about it.

It was quite obvious from the video the guy was a bad person. Bad things happen to bad people.

Dude might get raped in jail. Some would say thats not right either.

Ask me if I care....

Your right,and thats another subject

The goverment has you contained,once your in thier custody its their job to protect you.

If you cant provide a safe inviroment for your children,or those whom you have custody over,what happens?

The city,state and federal goverment have a duty to provide a safe enviroment for those whom are held in thier custody.
Not a pleasant enviroment,but safe.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by T-buck

You do not belong working at a Police Dept. if this is what you think is right.

I must agree,if thats your attitude,then I would say you have become
"desenceitized by your job" and are in need of councling.

just as they say kids who are desencitized act out in violence,I would say the same for these cops.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by team3six

I did Kenny on page one. Its called being human.

And I think I've been doing that all along...

[vonclod]

Originally Posted by TattooKenny

I wish someone would adress any of the points I made in any of my post A few of you keep making it out like we are some how defending or condoning what the bad guy did. No one is doing that. At the point the bad guy was ejected from the van he was NO LONGER a threat to anyone at that point in time! If you think 5 cops beating a knocked out guy that was face down in a ditch was justified then your just retarded! The guy got 20 years for what he did! I could murder someone and get 1/3 the time he did! So the justice system did it's job!

Believe it or not it's this kind of behavior and actions that make or turn good cops into bad cops! Were they bad cops? I'm sure they were not! Were they wrong that day and acting on emotion? Yes! Because of that 5 families are forever chanced.

They should have shown the same restraint that the cop showed that almost got hit! The fact is that the cop who almost got hit would have been 100% justified in shooting the bad guy when he tried to hit him!

If the bad guy not been ejected from the van and he was still in it the cops would not have rushed in like they did at all! They would have been guns drawn, in a felony stop! They would have been behind doors for cover. Two cops would have approached the suspect. One would cover the suspect while the other cuffed him. End of story! They should have done the same thing here! And we wouldn't be having the argument!

i,ve been saying pretty much the same things especially makeing the point about not supporting the bad guy it aint about him per se

[RANOVRU]

Originally Posted by TattooKenny

I wish someone would adress any of the points I made in any of my post A few of you keep making it out like we are some how defending or condoning what the bad guy did. No one is doing that. At the point the bad guy was ejected from the van he was NO LONGER a threat to anyone at that point in time! If you think 5 cops beating a knocked out guy that was face down in a ditch was justified then your just retarded! The guy got 20 years for what he did! I could murder someone and get 1/3 the time he did! So the justice system did it's job!

Believe it or not it's this kind of behavior and actions that make or turn good cops into bad cops! Were they bad cops? I'm sure they were not! Were they wrong that day and acting on emotion? Yes! Because of that 5 families are forever chanced.

They should have shown the same restraint that the cop showed that almost got hit! The fact is that the cop who almost got hit would have been 100% justified in shooting the bad guy when he tried to hit him!

If the bad guy not been ejected from the van and he was still in it the cops would not have rushed in like they did at all! They would have been guns drawn, in a felony stop! They would have been behind doors for cover. Two cops would have approached the suspect. One would cover the suspect while the other cuffed him. End of story! They should have done the same thing here! And we wouldn't be having the argument!

To be honest Kenny, I dont think 20yrs is enough. A maniac (plain & simple) intentionally driving a min-van through town like a.....freakin maniac, is pretty serious business imo.

You make the choice to intentionally, SENSELESSLY, hurt & endager others, you do not need to be walking the streets.

Never mind all of the "bad karma" it brings.


I still havent seen a vid of an old lady getting beat up at a traffic stop

[hellbounder]

dont like how the police handle thing's ? quit your job's . become police officer's ,and lead by example. who know's how many lives he endangered ,running from the police. ever see how all the chases come to an end on scariest [sp] police chases ? if he would have taken one of my family member's life running, id cut his f'n throat like a hog in the court room. nobody can honestly say, put in the same situation , actually seeing the lives put at risk,and being hopped up on emotion's and adrenelin[sp] that you would have done it any diffrent. my 2 cent's.

[TxFire976]

Originally Posted by rock hard

I must agree,if thats your attitude,then I would say you have become
"desenceitized by your job" and are in need of councling.

just as they say kids who are desencitized act out in violence,I would say the same for these cops.

No Sir, Iraq 2006-2008 "desenceitized" this person, not working at a PD.

[RANOVRU]

Originally Posted by hellbounder

dont like how the police handle thing's ? quit your job's . become police officer's ,and lead by example. who know's how many lives he endangered ,running from the police. ever see how all the chases come to an end on scariest [sp] police chases ? if he would have taken one of my family member's life running, id cut his f'n throat like a hog in the court room. nobody can honestly say, put in the same situation , actually seeing the lives put at risk,and being hopped up on emotion's and adrenelin[sp] that you would have done it any diffrent. my 2 cent's.

But police officers should be held to a higher standard....

....meanwhile deserve no more respect.

[T-buck]

Originally Posted by TxFire976

No Sir, Iraq 2006-2008 "desenceitized" this person, not working at a PD.

Go get help, You need it.

[TxFire976]

And to TattooKenny...how does the justice system win, with you getting out in 1/3 the time for a 20 year MURDER charge...? I'm not seeing your point..Sorry

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by TxFire976

No Sir, Iraq 2006-2008 "desenceitized" this person, not working at a PD.

Well thank you for your service sir.

My point is still stands,anyone who works for the department annd thinks the actions are justified.Well I'd have them go through a phycological evaluation
to determine the depth and type of coucling required to resensitize them.

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by TxFire976

And to TattooKenny...how does the justice system win, with you getting out in 1/3 the time for a 20 year MURDER charge...? I'm not seeing your point..Sorry

I think he was being sarcastic

[TxFire976]

Originally Posted by rock hard

Well thank you for your service sir.

My point is still stands,anyone who works for the department annd thinks the actions are justified.Well I'd have them go through a phycological evaluation
to determine the depth and type of coucling required to resensitize them.

Thanks..

[vonclod]

Originally Posted by RANOVRU

To be honest Kenny, I dont think 20yrs is enough. A maniac (plain & simple) intentionally driving a min-van through town like a.....freakin maniac, is pretty serious business imo.

You make the choice to intentionally, SENSELESSLY, hurt & endager others, you do not need to be walking the streets.

Never mind all of the "bad karma" it brings.


I still havent seen a vid of an old lady getting beat up at a traffic stop

heres a vid of our fine police hard at work..not an old lady but disabled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8K7j...eature=related
not quite getting beat up but fawkin shamefull..and more and more typical of the us(police brotherhood) vs the rest of us..i respect those who treat me with respect..why would i respect someone above and beyond because he has a badge..you treat me like a human and i,ll do the same..no one is on a higher level

[rock hard]

Originally Posted by vonclod

heres a vid of our fine police hard at work..not an old lady but disabled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8K7j...eature=related
not quite getting beat up but fawkin shamefull..

Yeah,there are alot of bad cops who get away with it,till the camera catches them.

This cop is a dandy,lied on his report aswell,I wonder how many do that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igZvuSOUKpU

[TxFire976]

Originally Posted by vonclod

heres a vid of our fine police hard at work..not an old lady but disabled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8K7j...eature=related
not quite getting beat up but fawkin shamefull..

Ok, alittle different situation, but still by far not right..worse case scenario the officer could say "he thought she was going to grab for his parnters gun" because there is the whole sidewalk and you "female" decided to walk right in between them, not smart.