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12-14-2010, 11:52 AM | #1 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tax Nation
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| Il to charge retro active internet sales tax
Just saw on the news that the state of Il will be sending out bills to people that bought items online and did not pay the state sales tax. Doesnt matter if you bought from an out of state company or even out of country. It will be retro active to June 1 2004 (yes 6 years!!!) I thought it couldnt be right so I checked the IL irs site... If the seller (typically an out-of-state business, such as a catalog company or a retailer making sales on the Internet) does not charge Illinois Sales Tax, the purchaser must pay the tax directly to the department. My question, how the heck are they going to prove what I bought or track my future purchases without infringing on my rights? |
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12-14-2010, 12:07 PM | #2 |
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I would love to see a state try to retroactively do that. So bottled water is illegal as of 6 years ago. Too bad you had some before it was illegal, now you have to pay the fines. I wonder if this is against interstate commerce laws? It isn't legal to shift a tax burden out of state, and this seems like IL is attempting this. If the company doesn't have a central nexus in the state, they are not subject to state taxes. |
12-14-2010, 02:09 PM | #3 |
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from what I am seeing, its IL and Maryland both doing it. The senate bill I found online was aimed primarily at Amazon and other large e-retailers. They currently are trying to get Amazon to release its customer spending reports so they can use that to tax people.
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12-14-2010, 02:27 PM | #4 |
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So they wish to tax one item TWICE for the same sale? Wow....
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12-14-2010, 02:34 PM | #5 |
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I think the best they would get is to start charging sales tax on internet orders, I can't see how legally they could back charge people. It would be like going back and handing out seatbelt tickets to everyone who owned a car prior to the 70's when seatbelts weren't illegal, grandfather clause |
12-14-2010, 02:36 PM | #6 |
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12-14-2010, 02:43 PM | #7 |
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I cant see how they are going to enforce it or even impliment it but, Quinn signed it into law today. Keep in mind that IL is the second on the broke list behind Cali, they are going to do what ever they need to to money grab |
12-14-2010, 02:49 PM | #8 |
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Got a news article?
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12-14-2010, 03:20 PM | #9 |
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| Logically it would have to be to the state in which the purchased item was located. Same as if you physically went to their store.
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12-14-2010, 03:27 PM | #10 |
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took forever to find it: http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news...x-pay-20101213 ironically its 2 article above the one about Il loosing residents faster than 48 otehr states. From reading it, it looks like it has been the law for a long time, they are just going to start trying to go after people. |
12-14-2010, 03:29 PM | #11 |
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if they get this going and worked out every damn state will be doing it oh yaaaaa |
12-14-2010, 04:19 PM | #12 | |
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BTW, I would LOVE to see proof from the government that any online item was actually purchased by the individual. A simple statement of "please show me my signature approving the charge" and a LOT of doubt enters the equation. | |
12-14-2010, 04:29 PM | #13 |
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| Is that a rhetorical question? Logically they would have enforced the law when it went into effect. Instead they let it go for a few years, most likely so that they can do what they are doing now, trying to collect a lump sum. |
12-14-2010, 06:42 PM | #14 | |
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12-14-2010, 06:44 PM | #15 |
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Have to love the Liberal waste land that is Illinois. I'm sure New York, California, and the other bastions of Libtard will soon follow. |
12-14-2010, 06:48 PM | #16 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tuscaloosa
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That is why I am for small government. They have their hand in way too much and get rich off of working folks while they do nothing.
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12-14-2010, 06:50 PM | #17 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: back where I belong
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lol govenrments is unsmart
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12-14-2010, 07:24 PM | #18 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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didn't a bunch of tea end up in a harbor one time over "Taxation Without Representation"???
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12-15-2010, 04:34 AM | #19 |
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I love Oregon, no f*#$ing sales tax....yet. They keep trying. I hope to god it never passes.
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12-15-2010, 06:35 AM | #20 |
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