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STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 11:00 AM

i needing to upgrade my processor but know nothing about that sort of thing.

its a dell insperon 530S that ive upgraded. but the processor is still the 1.8 dual core. a model E2160 from what ive googled. looks like a E6700 3.2 is supposed to fit and a good value. does anyone know if this processor should fit? pins? BIOS compatible? would this processor require a larger powersupply? (250w is what it has now)

any help into this subject would be greatly appreciated. i know nothing. everything above is just things ive gathered googling.

tarmo120 · 10-09-2011, 11:10 AM

Firstly is that computer a table pc or laptop.

Second thing is that you should find out the socket types. There are some programs to do that.
Like PC Wizard, Everest etc.

Then when you have the cpu found and confirmed that it fits.
You are faced with the hardest part. When a laptop.
Disassemble the most part of the laptop so you wont give any static power to the motherboard of components.
Fit the cpu and assemble so you wont have any spare screws.

Usually the powersupply is sufficent, but there might be issues with the temperature.
As laptop cooling usually is designed just for that specific hardware. Changing hardware to more powerful usually brings more heat.

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 11:52 AM

its a desktop. but a slim case version. 4" wide

its a socket 775

help!

Mazlem · 10-09-2011, 12:13 PM

Before you get a new CPU, update the BIOS to the latest version; that will make sure the system has the latest CPU information for it. - Here's a link. Once you've got that you'll be golden with the Intel 6700. How much RAM does it have? I'd upgrade it to 4GB if it's not there already.

And here's another link to the Dell boards discussing this same CPU upgrade.

Upgrading cpu on Inspiron 530 from E2160 1.8GHz to E6700 3.2GHz. - Desktop General Hardware Forum - Desktop - Dell Community

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 12:18 PM

i have checked the bios. and it was newer than what the 6700 required, but no clue if its the newest.
yeah its already been upgraded to 4GM ram. but XP can only recognize 3.25 of it.
how do i find out what bios 6700 requires?

what about the actuall physical swap itself? i was reading about some kind of paste?

tarmo120 · 10-09-2011, 01:21 PM

Well if it's a desktop it is easier.

First remove the power cord and press the power button a few times to
discharge the remaining power in the powersupply.
Disassemble the case revealing the motherboard, then locate the cpu cooler
(location differs with different boards) and then unscrew the screws that hold the cooler in place.
Now the paste. It is called thermalpaste, it is there for best heat movement.
When the cooler unit is off, clean the old cpu and cooler base with a vodka moisted soft rag or wipe.
Then there should be some small lever next to the cpu, raise it and you should be able to remove the cpu.
Now clean the top of the new cpu with the same procedure. Then install the new cpu, noticing the 45 degree of pins.
Before assembling everything put some new thermal paste on the new cpu top and then assemble everything.

OMG that took a while to type.

But that is how I have done it.
Step by step. But make sure that before you disassemble anything, you are familiar with the location
of the cpu, cpu cooler and the screws.(those are the most difficult part to remove)

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 01:40 PM

thanks! so your saying as is the E6700 is a direct drop in fit for my current setup? physical fitment and software, power, and temp wise?

tarmo120 · 10-09-2011, 02:07 PM

No, I don't know if fits or not. I just wanted to help out with the actual changing of the cpu's.

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 02:18 PM

how do i find out what chipset the E2160 is? (ill be honest i have no clue what a chipset is

)
and how do i find out what chipset the E6700 is?

also is it safe to upgrade my BIOS now? will it screw anything up? if i never do the processor upgrade will the current setup be ok with the updated BIOS?

tarmo120 · 10-09-2011, 02:26 PM

Hard to explain what a chipset is.

But I know some people here know and can guide you more.
Sorry I can't help any further.

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 02:36 PM

Ok well thank you!

maybe you can help with BIOS
my current BIOS is 1.0.3 (2007)
and the latest update on that link you gave me is 1.0.18 (2009)

its seems like number wise my BIOS is newer than what is available at Dell.com for update, even though my date is older. thoughts?

tarmo120 · 10-09-2011, 03:07 PM

Well, I have done a few cpu changes, but never looked at BIOS.
Simply because you can do it after the change and cpu's must work with standard or stock BIOS.
If I were you, I'd leave the BIOS alone and check if the cpu you found, fits in the socket.
I don't know where to check that though.

paintballer9876 · 10-09-2011, 03:27 PM

They are both lga 775 so that means that both processors are identical when it comes to sockets. You should have no issues with cooling as the stock cpu cooler should do just fine. The one thing you want to watch out for is applying the thermal paste, i have found that a pea sized amount in the middle of the chip and then letting the cpu cooler spread it around is the best.

The chips set is what is on your motherboard, it contains components like your north bridge, south bridge, ram, cpu, etc. So i have a mother board with the socket 1366 and the chipset is x58 by intel (since it supports an intel processor). If you have the socket lga 775 you have the chipset g41.
The chipset/socket is what also makes intel and mother board manufactures lots of money at least for intel since intel changes both with every new set of processors. AMD uses am2, am3 and am3+ for sockets and the chipset changes depending on who you buy it from. Thus making amd more affordable up front and over time.

As tarmo120 said leave the bios alone

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 04:01 PM

I FOUND out my motherboard is a G33M02

will a wolfdale 45nm processor(E6700 775 socket) work on my conroe/allendale 65nm (E2160 775 socket)motherboard?
ive been googling for days and its amazing the lack of answers that are out there.

i think i found somewhere i have a G33/ICH9 chipset

Mazlem · 10-09-2011, 04:56 PM

Yea the 6700 will work. Do upgrade the BIOS beforehand to ensure the system can recognize it properly though. 1.0.18 is higher than your 1.0.3 ;) 1.0.15 says in the notes that it added support for more Intel CPU's.

For cleaning the CPU and heatsink, rubbing alcohol is cheaper than vodka

Like paintballer said, only a tiny amount of thermal paste is needed (you can get it at radioshack or best buy, maybe staples.) Spread it evenly on the CPU so it's somewhat translucent.

binaryterror · 10-09-2011, 05:50 PM

You guys are missing an important issue...

HE SAID ITS A DELL.

They stamp and lock their processors. Meaning you better know a Dell Tech with their tool to upgrade, otherwise motherboard won't recognize the non-DELL processor and fail to even post.

Mazlem · 10-09-2011, 08:40 PM

And your proof of that is...

STANG KILLA SS · 10-09-2011, 09:04 PM

yeah in all my research ive not heard that mentioned once, ever. or even rumored.

losikid · 10-09-2011, 09:48 PM

Well i don't know a ton about cpu upgrades, but make sure your BIOS supports it, as mentioned above about the dell, its probably true, will probably have to look for a non dell BIOS for your MB.

tarmo120 · 10-10-2011, 02:00 AM

Well you can always contact Dell dealer so that they make the change and upgrade BIOS.
That way if something is f*cked up, it's their fault.

10-09-2011, 11:00 AM	#1
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	anyone know anything about upgrading processors? i needing to upgrade my processor but know nothing about that sort of thing. its a dell insperon 530S that ive upgraded. but the processor is still the 1.8 dual core. a model E2160 from what ive googled. looks like a E6700 3.2 is supposed to fit and a good value. does anyone know if this processor should fit? pins? BIOS compatible? would this processor require a larger powersupply? (250w is what it has now) any help into this subject would be greatly appreciated. i know nothing. everything above is just things ive gathered googling.

10-09-2011, 11:10 AM	#2
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	Firstly is that computer a table pc or laptop. Second thing is that you should find out the socket types. There are some programs to do that. Like PC Wizard, Everest etc. Then when you have the cpu found and confirmed that it fits. You are faced with the hardest part. When a laptop. Disassemble the most part of the laptop so you wont give any static power to the motherboard of components. Fit the cpu and assemble so you wont have any spare screws. Usually the powersupply is sufficent, but there might be issues with the temperature. As laptop cooling usually is designed just for that specific hardware. Changing hardware to more powerful usually brings more heat.

10-09-2011, 11:52 AM	#3
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	its a desktop. but a slim case version. 4" wide its a socket 775 help!

10-09-2011, 12:13 PM	#4
Mazlem Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central NY Posts: 387	Before you get a new CPU, update the BIOS to the latest version; that will make sure the system has the latest CPU information for it. - Here's a link. Once you've got that you'll be golden with the Intel 6700. How much RAM does it have? I'd upgrade it to 4GB if it's not there already. And here's another link to the Dell boards discussing this same CPU upgrade. Upgrading cpu on Inspiron 530 from E2160 1.8GHz to E6700 3.2GHz. - Desktop General Hardware Forum - Desktop - Dell Community

10-09-2011, 12:18 PM	#5
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	i have checked the bios. and it was newer than what the 6700 required, but no clue if its the newest. yeah its already been upgraded to 4GM ram. but XP can only recognize 3.25 of it. how do i find out what bios 6700 requires? what about the actuall physical swap itself? i was reading about some kind of paste?

10-09-2011, 01:21 PM	#6
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	Well if it's a desktop it is easier. First remove the power cord and press the power button a few times to discharge the remaining power in the powersupply. Disassemble the case revealing the motherboard, then locate the cpu cooler (location differs with different boards) and then unscrew the screws that hold the cooler in place. Now the paste. It is called thermalpaste, it is there for best heat movement. When the cooler unit is off, clean the old cpu and cooler base with a vodka moisted soft rag or wipe. Then there should be some small lever next to the cpu, raise it and you should be able to remove the cpu. Now clean the top of the new cpu with the same procedure. Then install the new cpu, noticing the 45 degree of pins. Before assembling everything put some new thermal paste on the new cpu top and then assemble everything. OMG that took a while to type. But that is how I have done it. Step by step. But make sure that before you disassemble anything, you are familiar with the location of the cpu, cpu cooler and the screws.(those are the most difficult part to remove)

10-09-2011, 01:40 PM	#7
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	thanks! so your saying as is the E6700 is a direct drop in fit for my current setup? physical fitment and software, power, and temp wise?

10-09-2011, 02:07 PM	#8
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	No, I don't know if fits or not. I just wanted to help out with the actual changing of the cpu's.

10-09-2011, 02:18 PM	#9
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	how do i find out what chipset the E2160 is? (ill be honest i have no clue what a chipset is ) and how do i find out what chipset the E6700 is? also is it safe to upgrade my BIOS now? will it screw anything up? if i never do the processor upgrade will the current setup be ok with the updated BIOS?

10-09-2011, 02:26 PM	#10
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	Hard to explain what a chipset is. But I know some people here know and can guide you more. Sorry I can't help any further.

10-09-2011, 02:36 PM	#11
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	Ok well thank you! maybe you can help with BIOS my current BIOS is 1.0.3 (2007) and the latest update on that link you gave me is 1.0.18 (2009) its seems like number wise my BIOS is newer than what is available at Dell.com for update, even though my date is older. thoughts?

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10-09-2011, 03:07 PM	#12
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	Well, I have done a few cpu changes, but never looked at BIOS. Simply because you can do it after the change and cpu's must work with standard or stock BIOS. If I were you, I'd leave the BIOS alone and check if the cpu you found, fits in the socket. I don't know where to check that though.

10-09-2011, 03:27 PM	#13
paintballer9876 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Punta Gorda, Flo-rida Posts: 453	They are both lga 775 so that means that both processors are identical when it comes to sockets. You should have no issues with cooling as the stock cpu cooler should do just fine. The one thing you want to watch out for is applying the thermal paste, i have found that a pea sized amount in the middle of the chip and then letting the cpu cooler spread it around is the best. The chips set is what is on your motherboard, it contains components like your north bridge, south bridge, ram, cpu, etc. So i have a mother board with the socket 1366 and the chipset is x58 by intel (since it supports an intel processor). If you have the socket lga 775 you have the chipset g41. The chipset/socket is what also makes intel and mother board manufactures lots of money at least for intel since intel changes both with every new set of processors. AMD uses am2, am3 and am3+ for sockets and the chipset changes depending on who you buy it from. Thus making amd more affordable up front and over time. As tarmo120 said leave the bios alone

10-09-2011, 04:01 PM	#14
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	I FOUND out my motherboard is a G33M02 will a wolfdale 45nm processor(E6700 775 socket) work on my conroe/allendale 65nm (E2160 775 socket)motherboard? ive been googling for days and its amazing the lack of answers that are out there. i think i found somewhere i have a G33/ICH9 chipset

10-09-2011, 04:56 PM	#15
Mazlem Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central NY Posts: 387	Yea the 6700 will work. Do upgrade the BIOS beforehand to ensure the system can recognize it properly though. 1.0.18 is higher than your 1.0.3 ;) 1.0.15 says in the notes that it added support for more Intel CPU's. For cleaning the CPU and heatsink, rubbing alcohol is cheaper than vodka Like paintballer said, only a tiny amount of thermal paste is needed (you can get it at radioshack or best buy, maybe staples.) Spread it evenly on the CPU so it's somewhat translucent.

10-09-2011, 05:50 PM	#16
binaryterror I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Detroit Posts: 3,583	You guys are missing an important issue... HE SAID ITS A DELL. They stamp and lock their processors. Meaning you better know a Dell Tech with their tool to upgrade, otherwise motherboard won't recognize the non-DELL processor and fail to even post.

10-09-2011, 08:40 PM	#17
Mazlem Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Central NY Posts: 387	And your proof of that is...

10-09-2011, 09:04 PM	#18
STANG KILLA SS ~THE SCALE SHOP~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: KILLEEN TX Posts: 10,056	yeah in all my research ive not heard that mentioned once, ever. or even rumored.

10-09-2011, 09:48 PM	#19
losikid Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 6,116	Well i don't know a ton about cpu upgrades, but make sure your BIOS supports it, as mentioned above about the dell, its probably true, will probably have to look for a non dell BIOS for your MB.

10-10-2011, 02:00 AM	#20
tarmo120 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 317	Well you can always contact Dell dealer so that they make the change and upgrade BIOS. That way if something is f*cked up, it's their fault.

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