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Old 10-18-2011, 12:43 PM   #101
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I am all for defending yourself but once the person was down he went beyond that when he continued to hit...
I think he only hit them again cause they were trying to get up.
When I was a bouncer, If I set somebody down to wait for the cops, if they didn't stay, I set them again.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:08 PM   #102
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Something tells me you never used a pipe Ricky.
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Something tells me you never used a pipe Ricky.
If he would have, then he wouldnt have had to:

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Something tells me you never used a pipe Ricky.
Depends on what kinda pipe were talking here
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A bad episode of Oz popped in my head.
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You know.. The one where Adabisi got a job as a telemarketer..
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:08 PM   #107
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I am all for defending yourself but once the person was down he went beyond that when he continued to hit...
I have been in many fights,and once my adrenaline gets started,I don't stop till its gone,or they pull me off.

The guys may have lost control for a bit,but they put him in the situation that made him react like that.

If my friend slaps me,andc I smash his head into the concrete a few times,who's fault is it that I did it?

Tp the best of my knowledge,he didn't know them from adam.
you come at me in a threatening manner and you deserve whatever you get,could be a beating,could be your life gets taken,either way,your action are the cause....

the worker had NO CRIMINAL INTENT,he was simply reaction to the situation
he was confronted with
the women had criminal intent,proven by slapping him,and going behind the counter.
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Old 10-18-2011, 06:01 PM   #108
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Something tells me you never used a pipe Ricky.
No, a 24 inch hickory stick.
But there was 1 of me a 6 of them. I got some cuts and bruises, knocked 3 out and the other 3 ran off.
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I have been in many fights,and once my adrenaline gets started,I don't stop till its gone,or they pull me off.

The guys may have lost control for a bit,but they put him in the situation that made him react like that.

If my friend slaps me,andc I smash his head into the concrete a few times,who's fault is it that I did it?

Tp the best of my knowledge,he didn't know them from adam.
you come at me in a threatening manner and you deserve whatever you get,could be a beating,could be your life gets taken,either way,your action are the cause....

the worker had NO CRIMINAL INTENT,he was simply reaction to the situation
he was confronted with
the women had criminal intent,proven by slapping him,and going behind the counter.
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:12 PM   #110
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If my friend slaps me,andc I smash his head into the concrete a few times,who's fault is it that I did it?
Ummm yours?

It's your friend who slapped you. Not a stranger charging at you.
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I have been in many fights,and once my adrenaline gets started,I don't stop till its gone,or they pull me off.

The guys may have lost control for a bit,but they put him in the situation that made him react like that.

If my friend slaps me,andc I smash his head into the concrete a few times,who's fault is it that I did it?

Tp the best of my knowledge,he didn't know them from adam.
you come at me in a threatening manner and you deserve whatever you get,could be a beating,could be your life gets taken,either way,your action are the cause....

the worker had NO CRIMINAL INTENT,he was simply reaction to the situation
he was confronted with
the women had criminal intent,proven by slapping him,and going behind the counter.
Your totally missing his point.

Yes the guy had all right to protect himself but if you do watch the vid,there is a point where they were clearly down and badly hurt and he kept beating them with the pole,was it extensive,yes but i'm not disagreeing with the fact that he had every right to protect himself but they were clearly down and the staff could have held them until police arrived.

If you can't hold down two women after they were clobered by a metal pole then your a bitch plain and simple.
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Ummm yours?

It's your friend who slapped you. Not a stranger charging at you.
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I have been in many fights,and once my adrenaline gets started,I don't stop till its gone,or they pull me off.

The guys may have lost control for a bit,but they put him in the situation that made him react like that.

If my friend slaps me,andc I smash his head into the concrete a few times,who's fault is it that I did it?

Tp the best of my knowledge,he didn't know them from adam.
you come at me in a threatening manner and you deserve whatever you get,could be a beating,could be your life gets taken,either way,your action are the cause....

the worker had NO CRIMINAL INTENT,he was simply reaction to the situation
he was confronted with
the women had criminal intent,proven by slapping him,and going behind the counter.
Like I had said I agree with how he reacted. But understanding the law and where that line is drawn I feel he over stepped it with the last hits. Yes he defended himself but once the attacker was down thats where it stopped. Now granted we cannot see whats behind the counter so all we can do is guess but I saw no deadly weapon the the attacker from the get go.
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Old 10-19-2011, 12:27 PM   #114
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Like I had said I agree with how he reacted. But understanding the law and where that line is drawn I feel he over stepped it with the last hits. Yes he defended himself but once the attacker was down thats where it stopped. Now granted we cannot see whats behind the counter so all we can do is guess but I saw no deadly weapon the the attacker from the get go.
I tell you what.....you show me the da who is gonna prosecute....now show me a cop that da has prosecuted for not stopping once the assailant was down.Cops los it all the time,and they are professionals who are TRAINED for those situations.You hear the aurguments,cop was reacting to the situation,,,,,so was this guy.....this guys is just a average joe,not a damn thing wrong with what he did.

Your better off not stopping till you know they are in no physicall condition to
get up and continue assaulting you,or flee from the scene.

LIke I said,if it had been me,I wouldnt have stopped till a friend or coworker
stopped me or they was out.

and if I'm jurer,I would hang the jury,no way would a go with anything but NOT GUILTY.

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Old 10-19-2011, 12:36 PM   #115
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Your totally missing his point.

Yes the guy had all right to protect himself but if you do watch the vid,there is a point where they were clearly down and badly hurt and he kept beating them with the pole,was it extensive,yes but i'm not disagreeing with the fact that he had every right to protect himself but they were clearly down and the staff could have held them until police arrived.

If you can't hold down two women after they were clobered by a metal pole then your a bitch plain and simple.
YOu missing my point...my point is that IMO he did nothing wrong,in fact I would have likey done more.

If you are attemting to hold them down,your not out of teh situation,in fact,you are now closer to them,which means more can happen.

I'm not gonna try to hold anyone down,I wont stop till they cant get up.
You think I'm bitch,then I think if you try to your a dip shit.

my wife is small,even if your holding her down she can still put a hurt on you.
pluse,like I said,I will assume they have aids,ect.Think I'm gonna get that close,guess again.
and for all he knew,these bitches could have had a blade,ect and appeared to be the tyoe who would,and who would use it.
Pluse,there was 2,you aint gonna hold 2 fighting peiople down,if yo think so your nieve.

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Old 10-19-2011, 12:43 PM   #116
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Ummm yours?

It's your friend who slapped you. Not a stranger charging at you.
a good friend,we had been drinking,and we always was testing our strenght.
well he was better than me at arm wrestling,but I pulled out my 16lb seldge(yeah ricky,16,but I was alot younger then)
I taped me nose 3 times,he tries and couldnt,there was girlles there aand he got puffy.

on the 3rd slap I snapped,put my thumb in his throwt and went to the ground,my cousin pulled mem off,but I had already smacked his head 3x into the driveway.

yeah my frien,imagine what I would do to a stranger who threatens my family.
If thier lucky I'll just sink em to the bottom of the lake.

You dont have to press charges,the state will do that for you wrether you like it or not if police are involved.
we had to call an ambulance,and the cops showed up.
But it was slef defence....his parents tried to press charges,and sue for medical bills

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Old 10-19-2011, 01:22 PM   #117
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One thing that hasn't been brought up yet, and could be a reason for him not stopping is PTSD. If this guy spent ten years in prison, who knows what happened to him in there that could have triggered that severe of a reaction.
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One thing that hasn't been brought up yet, and could be a reason for him not stopping is PTSD. If this guy spent ten years in prison, who knows what happened to him in there that could have triggered that severe of a reaction.
That's crazy enough that it might work. No way he could get off clean but "treatment" will make his stay a little shorter.

And ho hasn't stabbed a friend in the leg while drinking? That got nothing to do with a piping hot McEmployee.
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I think they must have still been threating him when they were on the ground and thats why he keept hitting them. I think if he would have stopped, they would have got up and beat his ass.

Theres 2 on 1 ,make sure they are done.
Everyone will do a job a little different.
He finished the job at hand.
Some of you sound like you would have done a half ass job. Then they might have got up and did a job on you.
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Nobody has died from getting slapped.
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