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Duuuuuuuude · 12-20-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley

The rules are ok, but you can't fix the fact that it doesn't work at the most basic levels. You can only hope to hide it.

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Originally Posted by Harley

The point is this. We built the USRCCA classes and trucks based on toy trucks going to the limits of our capabilities. The better you design a truck the further the class has evolved. Now we have rock crawling robot looking things pretty much but it is still one of my favorite things to do.

Now looking at scale the same way. If we kept designing parts to be even more realistic then we would not be making them more competitive. A true scale Dana 44 in a class one truck would snap housings and shafts with the drops we do on courses.

Anything stands a chance as long as its surrounded by and competes against rigs that are like it.

Comp rig rules allow them to be as cutting edge as possible, which is how it should be. They are performance based. Scale rig rules point rigs in the opposite direction (for the most part), which keeps them as scale looking as possible without being impossible or unpleasurable to drive. Scale rigs could be more true to scale than they are now but nobody would drive them. They'd be too fragile and it would suck all the fun out of things. Maybe that's just a reiteration of what you just said...

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Originally Posted by JeremyH

I know it wasnt....but this is chit chat, I thought the purpose of this forum is to take one thread down as many different paths as possible.

Who else loves tangents? I know I do!

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Originally Posted by JeremyH

I havent read all of the scale rules, but I think their attempt to classify the different rigs was with the intention of making things equal. It was to let folks be as scale (or not) as they please.

The committee did a great job with the scale rules. There isn't much to argue with.

BigBaller · 12-20-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

The committee did a great job with the scale rules. There isn't much to argue with.

Great point, now back on the tracks...

Ben, what were you saying!?....

GySgt Hartman · 12-20-2011, 03:09 PM

Anybody seen my t-shirts...?

In 2009 I paid for two classes at MSD Scale Nats. Later it turned out that I couldn't make-it. I contacted Ben and was told he couldn't refund my entry fees, but he would send me the t-shirts along with the other entry swag. I later found out Ben sold my shirts/swag/entries at the event and I was shit out of luck...

After confronting Ben he said he was having more made. Months went by and after more lies/stalling, finally Ben said he had the shirts but he wouldn't ship them to me because he thought I would make a video cutting them-up and wiping my ass with them...

He was right, fuk him.

rc_dirtslinger · 12-20-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GySgt Hartman

Anybody seen my t-shirts...?

After confronting Ben he said he was having more made. Months went by and after more lies/stalling, finally Ben said he had the shirts but he wouldn't ship them to me because he thought I would make a video cutting them-up and wiping my ass with them...

He was right, fuk him.

LMAO

jason · 12-20-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

I would be another vendor who had their parts copied and offered for sale by MSD.

Damn, again I wasn't talking about you either. How many of them were there?

ROLANDROCKSHOP · 12-20-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by microgoat

I love Festivus!

We've had the Airing Of Grievances. Who's up for Feats Of Strength?

JeremyH · 12-20-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duuuuuuuude

Who else loves tangents? I know I do!

They are my favorite of the citrus family.

crash · 12-20-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TURTLE

Have you seen the chit chat classics section?

That is really all it is. Hell most of chit chat is making fun of someone, what is the difference?

Na I usually don't dig into that BS... My life is surrounded by enough BS and I don't need anymore...

Harley · 12-20-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyH

They are my favorite of the citrus family.

That's ridiculous. There is no way they are better than a Florida orange. Just no fawking way.

TattooKenny · 12-20-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GySgt Hartman

Anybody seen my t-shirts...?

In 2009 I paid for two classes at MSD Scale Nats. Later it turned out that I couldn't make-it. I contacted Ben and was told he couldn't refund my entry fees, but he would send me the t-shirts along with the other entry swag. I later found out Ben sold my shirts/swag/entries at the event and I was shit out of luck...

After confronting Ben he said he was having more made. Months went by and after more lies/stalling, finally Ben said he had the shirts but he wouldn't ship them to me because he thought I would make a video cutting them-up and wiping my ass with them...

He was right, fuk him.

Same here. Paid for my tickets, couldn't make it. I didn't ask for a refund but rather just wanted my shirt that was promised. I never got one. That was a expensive shirt not to get...

YoUnG_vErSiOn · 12-20-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley

I think you're missing my point. I for one do own the same rigs. I do get the point of competing with them and do still enjoy it. What I'm saying is that if someone went to the limits of the basic idea behind it there would be a point where no amount of scale points would even out the field. We build rigs that balance it out. I still enjoy it.

The point is this. We built the USRCCA classes and trucks based on toy trucks going to the limits of our capabilities. The better you design a truck the further the class has evolved. Now we have rock crawling robot looking things pretty much but it is still one of my favorite things to do.

Now looking at scale the same way. If we kept designing parts to be even more realistic then we would not be making them more competitive. A true scale Dana 44 in a class one truck would snap housings and shafts with the drops we do on courses.

See what I mean? Not saying I don't enjoy it or get the idea of what we do.

Also not the point behind this thread...

i totally agree josh, point very well put.

Harley · 12-20-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by young_version

i totally agree josh, point very well put.

And again, scalers are what got me into and keep me interested in this hobby!

Fishmaxx · 12-20-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slobin3d

I've been there and handed out every prize that was given too us.??

In 2009?

slobin3d · 12-20-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

In 2009?

For scale Nats yes, I didn't hear what happened at USRRCA Nats in 09'

crash · 12-20-2011, 04:54 PM

Who cares. If ya don't like it grab your toys and go to a different sand box

Duuuuuuuude · 12-20-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crash

Who cares. If ya don't like it grab your toys and go to a different sand box

ROCKEDUP RICKY · 12-20-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crash

Who cares. If ya don't like it grab your toys and go to a different sand box

Disney ,Oklahoma.

Duuuuuuuude · 12-20-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Disney ,Oklahoma.

GySgt Hartman · 12-20-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crash

Who cares. If ya don't like it grab your toys and go to a different sand box

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Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Disney ,Oklahoma.

He said sand box, not lake...

Harley · 12-20-2011, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GySgt Hartman

He said sand box, not lake...

One damn time

12-20-2011, 03:09 PM	#63
GySgt Hartman I wanna be Dave Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: * Posts: 2,274	Re: Scale Nats cancelled?? Anybody seen my t-shirts...? In 2009 I paid for two classes at MSD Scale Nats. Later it turned out that I couldn't make-it. I contacted Ben and was told he couldn't refund my entry fees, but he would send me the t-shirts along with the other entry swag. I later found out Ben sold my shirts/swag/entries at the event and I was shit out of luck... After confronting Ben he said he was having more made. Months went by and after more lies/stalling, finally Ben said he had the shirts but he wouldn't ship them to me because he thought I would make a video cutting them-up and wiping my ass with them... He was right, fuk him.

12-20-2011, 04:54 PM	#75
crash I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Bar Posts: 2,832	Re: Scale Nats cancelled?? Who cares. If ya don't like it grab your toys and go to a different sand box

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