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JohnRobHolmes · 06-14-2006, 08:14 PM

This is the platform that I am using to test electrics for Midweight bashers. Right now it has a 1300W Lehner Basic XL 5000 motor in it geared 25/87. It really isnt blistering fast on 7 cells, although the tires ballon up like mad. I need to get my GPS on it to see how fast I think is still slow. A little lower gearing might speed it up.

Right at 6.5 pounds with 7 cell GP 3700's.
Quark 125 controller
Lehner XL 5000 motor- this motor is huge and drains the batts fast
25/87 gearing
a bit more than 10 minutes runtime giving it hell
Motor hit 142F
ESC hit 144F

Cole82 · 06-14-2006, 08:16 PM

Is that a pede?
It looks sweet what ever it is.
I'm interested in that controller. How do you like it. Is it as smooth as the 33?
Get a real f'ing motor in there.

joecrawler · 06-14-2006, 08:19 PM

looks like a pede! that is on crak and steroids.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-14-2006, 08:21 PM

Yeah, a Fast Lane Machine Stampede.

The controller is pretty smooth. Smoother than my old Shulze controller by far. It still gives a kick at first, but that could be my high gearing.

A real motor? I have a couple more on the way- from cheap and cheeful to Gucci "I cant believe anybody would spent that much on a motor". Im gonna see how this motor lights up on 9 cells though. It pushed my emaxx past 40, so I know it can make a pede haul.

Cole82 · 06-14-2006, 08:35 PM

Not on 6-7 cells.
I was running a hacker c40 6t in my rusty. Fast on 6cells.
I want to get another GUCCI setup for some speed. I miss my emaxx.:(

Trike Kid · 06-14-2006, 08:38 PM

That looks awful similar to my pede, only I have stock knuckles, and a simple SS5800 (for now, hoping to get a Lehner setup eventually). You need a real bumper though, my RPM has saved me more times than I can count.

radishkid · 06-14-2006, 08:39 PM

I've got one of those FLM 'pedes too. Maybe I'll be contacting you in the near future about buying a motor and controller. Very nice setup as always John.

dezfan · 06-14-2006, 08:58 PM

Sure you don't wan that 30 tooth pinion for a little more top end?

Looks alot nicer that the last time at Hobby Town it that's the same piece?

What happened to the black velvet?

Cloak · 06-14-2006, 10:03 PM

That is a nice looking truck.

TLTCrawlin · 06-14-2006, 10:08 PM

Sweet, check there site, they have more stuff, like new braces that the servo horn is by! Also is that a swami bar?

twisted · 06-14-2006, 11:00 PM

i had one of those.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-14-2006, 11:14 PM

Yes clodcrawlin, it is a swami bar. It has held up through some hella abuse. I wish it tied into the chassis, but it does have the deflector front.

I tried to fit the 30T in there Dez, but it wouldnt fit. The motor plate is a losi adaptation shoehorned to the pede tranny. I would have to go lower on the spur, and then throw the 30 on

Judging from the temps, I could go steeper on the gearing still. Under 150F the entire run for grass, street, and a steep hill is good though. I like everything under 150F at all times for longevities sake.

If anybody is interested, another motor should be in for testing in about a week. It costs more than 2x the cost of the 380C-6L. Gucci power, lightweight, 90%+ efficiency. It might be a trick getting it on a tranny though, depending if it is a finned can or smooth can.

TLTCrawlin · 06-14-2006, 11:21 PM

Thats some good gearing LOL, my 13t pede ran about 33 mph!!! It ran 15/87! I miss my pede! I am going to buy one again!

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2006, 02:34 PM

Did some more work on her last night. Changed the suspension, as #1 handled like crap and exhibited a saggy bottom.

Rear shocks are maxx sized with Losi hard blues. The motor is pretty heavy, and needed some support. I handbuilt the battery, wasn't too hard.

RodyRazorBackc5 · 06-15-2006, 02:57 PM

All that thing does is wheelie right?

Nice FLM skeleton.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2006, 03:02 PM

Rollling wheelies at 30mph.

Cloak · 06-15-2006, 04:15 PM

You should install rear steer so you can actually drive it at full speed.

JohnRobHolmes · 06-15-2006, 07:13 PM

No kiddin. It really lifts the fronts up.

I regeared and ran it 17/87. Combination grass and street.
Top speed felt about the same. GPS doesnt get reception in front of my house.
Motor ran 142F solid
ESC ran 122F when it was warmed up
Wheelies on command like mad

Runtime was around 15 minutes and I stopped because one tire had flung loose. One little jump sent the tire sailing off and rolling away 30 ft down the yard.

I will play with the gearing some more, but getting more power from this motor will require a higher voltage. 9 cells will be constructed to suit.

Scattman · 06-15-2006, 07:22 PM

lets see some vid on 9 cells

Cloak · 06-15-2006, 07:27 PM

Hell, I'd love to see some vid as is.

06-15-2006, 02:34 PM	#14
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Did some more work on her last night. Changed the suspension, as #1 handled like crap and exhibited a saggy bottom. Rear shocks are maxx sized with Losi hard blues. The motor is pretty heavy, and needed some support. I handbuilt the battery, wasn't too hard. Attached Images

06-14-2006, 08:14 PM	#1
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Test Vehicle #1 This is the platform that I am using to test electrics for Midweight bashers. Right now it has a 1300W Lehner Basic XL 5000 motor in it geared 25/87. It really isnt blistering fast on 7 cells, although the tires ballon up like mad. I need to get my GPS on it to see how fast I think is still slow. A little lower gearing might speed it up. Right at 6.5 pounds with 7 cell GP 3700's. Quark 125 controller Lehner XL 5000 motor- this motor is huge and drains the batts fast 25/87 gearing a bit more than 10 minutes runtime giving it hell Motor hit 142F ESC hit 144F Attached Images Last edited by JohnRobHolmes; 06-14-2006 at 08:17 PM.

06-14-2006, 08:16 PM	#2
Cole82 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids Posts: 2,028	Is that a pede? It looks sweet what ever it is. I'm interested in that controller. How do you like it. Is it as smooth as the 33? Get a real f'ing motor in there.

06-14-2006, 08:19 PM	#3
joecrawler Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 264	looks like a pede! that is on crak and steroids.

06-14-2006, 08:21 PM	#4
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Yeah, a Fast Lane Machine Stampede. The controller is pretty smooth. Smoother than my old Shulze controller by far. It still gives a kick at first, but that could be my high gearing. A real motor? I have a couple more on the way- from cheap and cheeful to Gucci "I cant believe anybody would spent that much on a motor". Im gonna see how this motor lights up on 9 cells though. It pushed my emaxx past 40, so I know it can make a pede haul.

06-14-2006, 08:35 PM	#5
Cole82 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids Posts: 2,028	Not on 6-7 cells. I was running a hacker c40 6t in my rusty. Fast on 6cells. I want to get another GUCCI setup for some speed. I miss my emaxx.:(

06-14-2006, 08:38 PM	#6
Trike Kid RCC Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 1,191	That looks awful similar to my pede, only I have stock knuckles, and a simple SS5800 (for now, hoping to get a Lehner setup eventually). You need a real bumper though, my RPM has saved me more times than I can count.

06-14-2006, 08:39 PM	#7
radishkid Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In the saddle... Posts: 473	I've got one of those FLM 'pedes too. Maybe I'll be contacting you in the near future about buying a motor and controller. Very nice setup as always John.

06-14-2006, 08:58 PM	#8
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Sure you don't wan that 30 tooth pinion for a little more top end? Looks alot nicer that the last time at Hobby Town it that's the same piece? What happened to the black velvet?

06-14-2006, 10:03 PM	#9
Cloak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,206	That is a nice looking truck.

06-14-2006, 10:08 PM	#10
TLTCrawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 2,489	Sweet, check there site, they have more stuff, like new braces that the servo horn is by! Also is that a swami bar?

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06-14-2006, 11:00 PM	#11
twisted I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,386	i had one of those.

06-14-2006, 11:14 PM	#12
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Yes clodcrawlin, it is a swami bar. It has held up through some hella abuse. I wish it tied into the chassis, but it does have the deflector front. I tried to fit the 30T in there Dez, but it wouldnt fit. The motor plate is a losi adaptation shoehorned to the pede tranny. I would have to go lower on the spur, and then throw the 30 on Judging from the temps, I could go steeper on the gearing still. Under 150F the entire run for grass, street, and a steep hill is good though. I like everything under 150F at all times for longevities sake. If anybody is interested, another motor should be in for testing in about a week. It costs more than 2x the cost of the 380C-6L. Gucci power, lightweight, 90%+ efficiency. It might be a trick getting it on a tranny though, depending if it is a finned can or smooth can.

06-14-2006, 11:21 PM	#13
TLTCrawlin I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA Posts: 2,489	Thats some good gearing LOL, my 13t pede ran about 33 mph!!! It ran 15/87! I miss my pede! I am going to buy one again!

06-15-2006, 02:57 PM	#15
RodyRazorBackc5 Pebble Pounder Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Of America Posts: 157	All that thing does is wheelie right? Nice FLM skeleton.

06-15-2006, 03:02 PM	#16
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Rollling wheelies at 30mph.

06-15-2006, 04:15 PM	#17
Cloak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,206	You should install rear steer so you can actually drive it at full speed.

06-15-2006, 07:13 PM	#18
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	No kiddin. It really lifts the fronts up. I regeared and ran it 17/87. Combination grass and street. Top speed felt about the same. GPS doesnt get reception in front of my house. Motor ran 142F solid ESC ran 122F when it was warmed up Wheelies on command like mad Runtime was around 15 minutes and I stopped because one tire had flung loose. One little jump sent the tire sailing off and rolling away 30 ft down the yard. I will play with the gearing some more, but getting more power from this motor will require a higher voltage. 9 cells will be constructed to suit.

06-15-2006, 07:22 PM	#19
Scattman Official Cook of the ECC Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawthorne, Florida Posts: 2,653	lets see some vid on 9 cells

06-15-2006, 07:27 PM	#20
Cloak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,206	Hell, I'd love to see some vid as is.

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