01-04-2013, 02:25 PM | #461 |
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01-04-2013, 02:28 PM | #462 | |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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If you can't guarantee that nobody will ever have to defend themself from an attacker or intruder ever again, you shouldn't be able to take away guns. I have no given right to expect the police or military to personally protect me or my family from danger, but I do have the given right to defend myself or someone else if needed. | |
01-04-2013, 02:55 PM | #463 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: back where I belong
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gee i dont know grizzly, why is less people dying better than more?
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01-04-2013, 03:04 PM | #464 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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| Re: Fwck gun control While I actually agree with you on this statement, I don't think this issue is as cut and dry as you are trying to make it. Comparing the culture and laws of two countries thousands of miles apart is not easy....
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01-04-2013, 03:08 PM | #465 | |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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I would rather take my chances in a society that allows me to have a gun, than one that requires me to be a defenseless sheep waiting to be slaughtered. Because the loonies and bad guys will still have guns after the law abiding citizens are disarmed. | |
01-04-2013, 03:14 PM | #466 |
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I'm not for a ban but it would save all the dummies that accidentally kill themselves or their friends.
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01-04-2013, 03:19 PM | #467 | |
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They call America the land of opportunity, now I'm plenty sure that's at least somewhat true for most upper middle classed privileged white kids, I highly doubt that most people resorting to joining gangs and criminal activities are on an equal playing field through no fault of their own other than the accident of their birth. I think the greater the gap between the haves and the have nots the greater the levels of criminal activity. All your freedoms come at a price, be it accepting someones hate speech or having such easy access to firearms that makes it all to easy for people to arm themselves to the tits and go on a mass shooting rampage. | |
01-04-2013, 03:24 PM | #468 | ||
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01-04-2013, 03:26 PM | #469 |
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While I do agree with socioeconomic differences and things going in line with certain status', things also go against the grain. An upper middle class kid shooting up an elementary school or a gang member starting a multi million dollar grocery store chain for instances. Just because you CAN use a weapon to harm multiple people, doesn't mean you SHOULD. Bottom line is there will always be crazy and someone will use a stone if a rifle isn't handy. |
01-04-2013, 03:32 PM | #470 | |
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you can't sit there and tell me they are on equal playing fields, with people not born in a shithole ghetto or on a res. if you honestly believe they do then we have nothing more to discuss. | |
01-04-2013, 03:37 PM | #471 |
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Sounds like excuses instead of reasons. I was born and raised in a shit hole in Cali called Berdoo. I know plenty of people who are poor, who are minority's and have had some kind of addiction problem or something, yet they never turned into mass murderers. How easy to make excuses for people when all it comes down to is self accountability, self responsibility. Of course why blame some useless shithead when we can blame an inanimate object like a gun. The "oh it's not his fault" he's from a bad neighborhood" mentality that propigates this horseshit. Class warfare, ignorant . [QUOTE=Mr.Slave;4106822] They call America the land of opportunity, now I'm plenty sure that's at least somewhat true for most upper middle classed privileged white kids, I highly doubt that most people resorting to joining gangs and criminal activities are on an equal playing field through no fault of their own other than the accident of their birth. I think the greater the gap between the haves and the have nots the greater the levels of criminal activity. QUOTE] |
01-04-2013, 03:38 PM | #472 | |
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People are much quicker to find an excuse for their bad situation than to find a solution... BTW, I never said anything about locations being "equal playing fields". I guess we don't have any more to discuss as you are involved in some other discussion than the one here... Last edited by JeremyH; 01-04-2013 at 03:40 PM. | |
01-04-2013, 03:39 PM | #473 |
Yashua Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Learn the parable of the fig tree
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Yes the goverment has made slaves of many people in the name of fairness, if a person does'nt have the desire for a better life they get what they deserve. |
01-04-2013, 04:34 PM | #474 | |
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - b franklin | |
01-04-2013, 04:54 PM | #475 |
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01-04-2013, 07:01 PM | #476 |
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| Re: Fwck gun control Quote: 10-year-old Pennsylvania girl hit by stray bullet dies no good or right answers to the gun question, i agree with the famouse quote in the above post but i dont think everyone is responsable/respectfull enough to own a gun Last edited by vonclod; 01-04-2013 at 07:06 PM. |
01-04-2013, 07:12 PM | #477 | |
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01-04-2013, 07:32 PM | #478 |
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| Re: Fwck gun control Henderson teen tells 911 dispatcher: 'I just shot the man' :: WRAL.com snopes.com: Home Invasion Thwarted by 11-Year-Old Girl 14 Year-Old Arizona Boy Babysitter Shoots Armed Home Intruder - Riehl World News Heres a few more some a little older. Remember gun crimes are all commited by BAD people we are law abiding citzens not crazies. Also criminals want the government to ban guns because they will still have them and it will be easier for them to do what they want to you rob you, rape you and still they can kill you. Drugs illeagle but they are still there. |
01-04-2013, 08:22 PM | #479 |
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| Re: Fwck gun control Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder if she didnt have the pistol would have been a much different story. Although he may have left if she just asked nicely. |
01-04-2013, 08:53 PM | #480 | |
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Celebratory gunfire is illegal pretty much everywhere. Maryland has fairly strict gun laws compared to many states and does not like to issue CC permits. Depsite that you are better off walking through downtown Baghdad at night than downtown Baltimore at night. Same with Washington DC, which has even more strict gun laws and bans. | |
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