01-15-2013, 04:38 PM | #541 |
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01-15-2013, 04:41 PM | #542 |
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Another little nugget of information for the anti gun crowd. Since the South V. Maryland case in 1855, the US Supreme Court has consistently ruled that the police have no affirmative duty to protect. Even when the police have a restraining order on file (Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 2005). As a practical matter, the police can't protect the citizens they serve 24/7. Anyone who has been in any kind of firefight or violent situation can attest that these incidents happen and are over usually in a matter of seconds. Even with a response time to a 911 call of two minutes, the whole incident will likely be done and over with by the time the police arrive on scene. Look at Sandy Hook; the police were on scene in two minutes to find 26 people dead. The real "first responder" in any situation is YOU. Having a firearm makes all the difference between those who survive, and those who don't. |
01-15-2013, 04:48 PM | #543 | |
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S2230-2013 - NY Senate Open Legislation - Enacts the NY SAFE Act of 2013 - New York State Senate Last edited by dkf; 01-15-2013 at 04:51 PM. | |
01-15-2013, 04:52 PM | #544 | |
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as i have also noted that these mass shooters are often not criminals before they act out in a big way im not trying to take your guns but it has to be made just slightly harder..we take a 4-8 hour saftey course then no problem with shotguns and rifles..handguns are a different case and really where the gun violence problem lies, here we need a restricted firearm course/licence...same deal maybee 4 hours, and there are no carry permits..just a simple little thing but alas canada is not america and too far down the road to fix now maybee..im just frustrated with all this | |
01-15-2013, 04:57 PM | #545 |
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01-15-2013, 05:14 PM | #546 |
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One answer is for the government to stop blaming law abiding citizens! More gun laws do nothing to prevent crime. Look at Chicago. A vast majority of the gun violence that takes place in our Nation takes place in unban areas that have been under Liberal control for decades. These same people are trying to pass the same restrictive gun laws Nation wide and are either intellectually incapable of admitting those laws are the cause of the problem, or they are intentually trying to destroy the country. The Constitution isn't broken, the politicians need to stop trying to "fix" it. Last edited by dezfan; 01-15-2013 at 05:16 PM. |
01-15-2013, 05:23 PM | #547 | |
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01-15-2013, 05:31 PM | #548 | |
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If you have anyone outside of NY you can send your "high capacity magazines" to I would do that.(otherwise you are looking at the minimum of a misdemeanor) I will be happy to store them for you. | |
01-15-2013, 05:35 PM | #549 |
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What sucks is the restraining order add-in. Have some crazy file for the hell of it to screw you over, and loose your guns. Wonder if one was filed if it could be fought in court? Hell got a year, move. |
01-15-2013, 05:39 PM | #550 |
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| Re: Fwck gun control Or an angry ex-wife, girlfriend and etc. I would imagine you can fight it in court however the retainer of a decent lawyer is not exactly cheap. And the retainer is only the beginning of the fees.
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01-15-2013, 06:29 PM | #551 | |
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However, issues like not being able to buy cheap bs ammo for range recreational use will be a major PIA now... I won't be able to just walk into Walmart and buy cheap 9mm ball round or .22 for my gsg. Now it's looking like ill have to go to a gun shop and go through the process like every other tom dick and Harry | |
01-15-2013, 06:42 PM | #552 | |
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I too think this is BS and illeagle, but if they are going to impose this BS, it needs to be applied equally to all. LEO, politicians, etc... As public servants, they should be held to the same standards as those they work for. | |
01-15-2013, 07:08 PM | #553 |
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01-15-2013, 07:13 PM | #554 |
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. Jan 16, 2013 will end all of us being "Citizens" and the beginning of us all being turned into "Peasants" Welcome to the "Obomanation" Your vote has consequences ! How's all that "Hope & Change" going for you? Semper Fi Keep your powder dry |
01-15-2013, 07:17 PM | #555 |
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It sounds like the NY Senate and Cuomo may have ignored the manditory 3 day commentary period. Hopefully the legislation Cuomo signed into law is overturned in the NY supreme court or the SCOTUS.
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01-15-2013, 07:26 PM | #556 | |
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Just my opinion... I don't feel I should have to have a back ground check called in every time I want to purchase ammo. If I get arrested or something a long those lines I am FIRED from job...ZERO tolerance, random drug testing, and at anytime can be forced to repeat a psychological exam. Plus yearly recerts... Last edited by 1BadJeepBruiser; 01-15-2013 at 07:29 PM. Reason: ****ing iPad | |
01-15-2013, 08:00 PM | #557 |
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I am sure the gov will sleep good tonight after the f**king he gave us!
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01-15-2013, 08:06 PM | #558 | |
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just cuz your a cop, it doesnt matter ( though I dont think a background check for ammo doesn anything ) except raise costs for all. and you may not know it, but when a cop feels he or she "shouldnt" be treasted equal to those whome they serve...that can be percieves as aragance at times, maybe like the officer feels they are better, or deserve to be treated better....that the rest. and that creates animosity.. a cop is not supperiour to thise they serve...ever I wonder how many cops have in the past seeked some type of help for mental health help for post tramitic strees maybe after a horrific event. would they loose thier right to carry, being that they have a mental health issue....and there is evidence that some prople with pts hurt others. | |
01-15-2013, 08:13 PM | #559 | |
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I'm simply stating that the avg NYS resident doesn't have to go through what I have to go through to obtain a pistol permit or any other weapon...this isn't in regards to the constitutions right to bare arms, I'm talking about state law. Last edited by 1BadJeepBruiser; 01-15-2013 at 08:15 PM. | |
01-15-2013, 08:35 PM | #560 |
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Well New York's leading Assh*le just signed a new law , I now have to register my AR-15 with the local PD and I have to buy new magazines that only hold 7 rounds . No more AR type rifles are to be sold in NY , hand gun owners must renew licenses every 5 years , which is not a big deal . This will be fought in court but take this as a warning go get your guns now before your state follows this one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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