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01-23-2007, 12:04 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fremont/Newark, California
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|  A video for your viewing pleasure...NWS..mild language in 2 pac song. |
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01-23-2007, 10:45 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bryant, AR
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Thats sweet, we need more video of that go kart.
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01-23-2007, 11:36 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: US
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I've always loved watching the Darius240 movies. I LOVE that Zcar... blown LT1, cage, sweet set of wheels, six speed... damn. The shifter car is pretty sweet too. A couple of the vids I have show it more. That was a good vid... but I prefer to hear the bikes/cars/carts. |
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01-23-2007, 12:05 PM
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| Colt Python/SR9c  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: out in the shop, reloading ammo!
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Brian, is that a flame graphic on the red CBR or paint? Cool vid.. Seen it over on SL |
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01-23-2007, 01:26 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fremont/Newark, California
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01-23-2007, 02:02 PM
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| Rock Stacker  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Budd Lake, NJ
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The best part of this video was the cops handcuffing the guy. What a bunch of chumps, all fun and games til someone gets killed, and oh yes it happens, and its usually the innocent bystanders. would have loved to see one of these fools hit the pavement with no helmut and get wiped out. JUST AS THEY DESERVE. Just my opinion. I'm the guy who roots for the bull in bull riding, the harder the guy gets trampled on the better. HE deserves it for riding the bull. |
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01-23-2007, 02:26 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yuma
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i agree with you about bulls but bikes are cool no nuts tied up there | |
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01-23-2007, 02:48 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fremont/Newark, California
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 to the internet toughguy......I bet he rides a BMW
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01-24-2007, 07:07 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Budd Lake, NJ
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I don't own a bike and never would for one simple reason.....other people do not see people on bikes and this is how they get wiped out. I bet 50% or more of Bike accidents are caused by other motorists not the biker. Its sad. and another 30 to 40% of "accidents" with bikers are probably due to speed and loss of control, so they are really not accidents per say. Look I have nothing against bikers, or bikers doing stunts in a parking lot or safe spot, but going across a bridge in a wheelie, with no hands, with other motoists around is just plain IGNORANT. Killing yourself is your business, but killing someone else if you happen to crash is unforgivable. Would you want some kid fooling around on a bike or drifting his vette around a corner on a wet road to hit your family and injure or kill them.....I think not, so why risk being that kid. Again not bashing, just do not understand the need to do dumb things. Guess I am just too practical. Also for the record, I think that the guys who do these stunts are talented, I have seen extreme bike stunt comps on TV and they are cool to watch, but again, they are on a closed course with only their own health to worry about. Later |
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01-24-2007, 07:39 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York
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i like how he wiped out at the end....
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01-24-2007, 07:40 AM
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| 06 Super National Champ   Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill
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A buddy of mine is a motorcycle cop here in town. He (along with another cop) was escorting a group of motorcyclists on a ride. He was sitting at an intersection, lights on -blocking traffic. Some clown in the group decided to pull some stupid stunt, crashed into the motorcycle cop that was moving along in front of the group, then crashed into my buddy who was stationary and blocking the intersection. |
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01-24-2007, 08:09 AM
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| Colt Python/SR9c Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: out in the shop, reloading ammo!
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 I agree that some things we do are idiotic and ignorant and should stay in parking lots and closed courses due to risks involved. There are too many ignorant drivers out there to be doing this on the streets, that do not see motorcycles period. while riding the streets I ride very defensively. Also, to many innocent bystanders( like JIA's friend) that things can happen to. I try to stay in lots and such as I practice and crap. That way I only injure myself or my property. I do not want to take the chance on injurying someone else or their property and taking that chance on losing my house and other stuff over it, if not getting ran over by a car if I was to wipe out. Although I will catch myself "up on one" when the street is not crowded.However, even when your on a closed course, you still have other lifes to worry about. You still have spectators and such around. Just like at a motocross/dragracing/monster truck/ and any other sport. Events can happen to those spectators and not just to the drivers/riders. Heck, I could go watch a MLB game and get hit in the head with a baseball. Yes I know these are different circumstances, but however, they are all within closed areas. Anything can happen, but there is less risk in a closed enviroment  But I severly disagree with the statement of "getting what they deserved". No one really deserves to die, unless your a murder,rapist,child molestor,etc. Just because you enjoy a sport or a hobby, although it may be dangerous or stupid, doesn't give you the right to die. I guess since you go out and rock crawl with your truck, when you slip on a rock and break your neck, I guess you deserved that? If someone is riding their bike at the speed limit, goes around a turn, chain breaks and the wipe out over a cliff or into a tree, guess they deserved that? | |
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01-24-2007, 08:17 AM
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| 06 Super National Champ Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stark Industries Bar and Grill
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With every choice you make there are consequences. Bottom line - Choose your plan of action and assume the risks involved. | |
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01-24-2007, 09:06 AM
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| Quarry Creeper  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Great White North
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Now, when you go to the track, or the hockey rink, or any "closed" environment, and you get hit by a puck, flying tire, whatever, you are assuming part of the risk. You know you are. That's why tickets to almost any sporting event have a disclaimer on the back that says something like, by using this ticket you accept personal responsibility for any injuries that may occur. If you aren't willing to accept the risk, don't use the ticket. Now, the family that's just out for a Sunday drive and gets wiped out by one of these guys pulling a stupid stunt. They didn't sign up for that. I give props, guys definately have skills, but keep it off the streets. | |
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01-24-2007, 09:14 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Budd Lake, NJ
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Twisted, I like your post here, candid and honest. Maybe the "getting what they deserve" comment was the incorrect terms, but someone drifting a car is assuming alot of risk and has made the choice to drift and assumes the consequenses which may include death. My choice to walk along rocks while crawling does involve risk and I may get hurt, but there is a difference between me walking on rocks and the person who chooses to perform a high speed stunt. There is no need to do high speed stunts, drive 100+ miles per hour, pop wheelies, etc. Me walking on rocks is equal to the biker who is driving along at normal speed and having a true accident, we are both assuming risk. Stunts on a bike and such would be equal to me sprinting across wet rocks as fast as I could to show off. I have now assumed undue risk, that is not needed and I deserve to fall if I fall, I am doing something stupid. I guess my only problem with your post is that you miss my point of the action leading to the effect is the determination of deserving or not. Acting stupid you deserve it, just walking, riding along its an accident and you do not deserve it. If you are acting stupid and something happens, it is no longer an accident. spectators do assume risk, no matter what they are spectating. They have chosen to be at the event and if something happens it is tragic. I am always dumbstuck at these people who line up on rally courses or the baja and such, what can they expect but to be possibly whipped out. I was watching a video show the other day and in some other country there was a car race happening, the raceway had no retaining walls at all, none, what a bunch of dumbies, the bigger dumbies were the hundreds of spectators standing less than 100 feet from the track, then a car lost control and slammed into the crowd, a horrific sight. but they were assuming undue risk and kind of deserved it. No reasonable person would be 100 feet from an un-retained race track. I sound like a lawyer or risk manager.lol Great dialogue here, I like it, no one is offended, just making opinions know, I like it. Keep them coming. |
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01-24-2007, 09:52 AM
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| Colt Python/SR9c Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: out in the shop, reloading ammo!
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I understood your post, but no matter how extreme the stunt or hobby, no one "deserves" to die( unless it is those that I stated above). Just because they were acting foolish, doesn't justify "deserving"... As for the walking comment, yes I know you were not taking that risk, but the same applies. So let me ask you this: If your son is across the street playing in the park and someone comes up and snags him or you even see that he is hurt real bad. You then begin to run over. However, you trip over the curb and you fall into the street, where you just got ran over and died. Did you "deserve" it, because you cared for your son? From your above responses, you did deserve it, because you took the risk of running and you would have ran across the street. When actually, you should have walked down the street, to the crosswalk and waited for the light. |
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01-24-2007, 10:24 AM
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| Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Budd Lake, NJ
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I still see a different that you do not see, but that is ok. In my original post here I stated that "would have loved to see one of these fools hit the pavement with no helmut and get wiped out. JUST AS THEY DESERVE." I did not say die, even though its a possiblity. I do not think I said anyone deserves to die in my posts, but show me if I did. I am just saying that if someone is doing something dumb, and has made the choice to do some thing dumb, a conscious choice, then they deserve what they get. (but yes no one deserves to die) Me running to help my injuried child would be an instinctually action, not a counscious one, so there lies the difference. running to help child and hit by car/tripping - accident Car pulls in front of your motorcycle and you just driving along normal - accident walking along street normally and step in hole - accident parachuters chute does not open - accident popping a wheelie at 100 MPH and falling - not an accident Have you never in your live said to yourself he deserves that for something other than your list above. A guy makes a comment about your buddies wife/girlfriend and your friend punches him.......did he deserve to be punched? I guess I just see a difference between normal occurences being accidents that are not deserved and someone taking a calculated risk and deserving the consequenses, or for a better way of putting it they assume the undue risk of major trauma. Also, I do not consider popping wheelies at 100 mph on a public road a hobby or a stunt. a stunt is a well researched, calculated, under controlled environment act like a stunt for a movie, risk yes, but controlled environment But I see your point about deserving and it may have been a bad choice of words |
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