05-03-2017, 12:27 PM | #81 |
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Axail is over rated, just start buying Redcat crawlers.
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05-03-2017, 12:46 PM | #82 |
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05-03-2017, 12:51 PM | #83 | |
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Who knows. | |
05-03-2017, 01:01 PM | #84 | |
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05-03-2017, 01:04 PM | #85 |
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05-03-2017, 01:14 PM | #86 |
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05-03-2017, 02:17 PM | #87 |
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Probably get severely lashed for this but... Who is using there kid to go punch Axial Exec. At Axial Fest in the ding ding for making us wait for parts? |
05-03-2017, 02:20 PM | #88 |
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I keep thinking about GM's Venezuelan manufacturing plant... Edit: completely unrelated, but the ad banner below the thread for me is currently " Houston's Ultimate Matchmaking Site, Beautiful Women Only" and it's cracking me up. I don't browse personal's or dating sites, or escort services. Can't afford to, need my money for more R/C gear Last edited by durok; 05-03-2017 at 03:25 PM. |
05-03-2017, 02:24 PM | #89 | |
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What are the nature of these moulds? To me it seems unlikely that a company would leave the basis of its survival in the hands of an overseas factory. This story is entertaining. Just like most Axial new release leaks. | |
05-03-2017, 02:55 PM | #90 | |
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Almost everything plastic is molded. You have to have a mold the shape of the piece you want, and molten plastic is forced into the mold. The reason you have "parts trees" is because the branches of the tree allow you to connect multiple parts to one mold. Anyway, if they have no mold, they can't make any parts. And since both the making of molds and the production of the parts is MUCH cheaper overseas, it is common to have it done there. I think where Axial messed up, is having all of it's molding done in one facility. | |
05-03-2017, 03:15 PM | #91 | |
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05-03-2017, 03:24 PM | #92 |
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So multiple facilities producing essentially the same product? Moulded plastic.. That would mean way more overhead and if one goes under you're still up $#!+ Creek without a paddle. At those costs they might as well just produce in America..... I get where you guys are coming from, don't put all your eggs in one basket if you will, but cost cutting is why they're overseas anyway. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk |
05-03-2017, 03:36 PM | #93 |
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Just to add a little insight to how vendors are set up to a manufacturer. I work for an automotive OEM as a Parts Quality Engineer, and deal with all kinds of situations from: major quality issues, plant fires, capacity issues, contract issues, tooling issues, government issues and the list goes on. When a project is thought up a manufacturer goes to different companies for bids OEM's give the suppliers 2D and 3D representations of their parts to be able to quote the business. The cheapest person is usually who is picked to manufacture the parts. Included in that quote are tooling cost, most OEM's give the supplier a percentage of the cost to build the tools to produce their parts. The OEM owns the majority of the tooling but it adds some sort of risk for the supplier. Supplier's are also responsible for producing the tooling for the agreed price then they build the tooling to fit the Presses, CNC machines, and Injection molding machines that they have. The supplier is also responsible for the tooling maintenance throughout the life of the tool. With that said it is not as easy as going and getting "your tooling" from the supplier and giving it to another since the tooling was build for the original suppliers process. Most injection molds take 10-12 weeks to build if starting over. Then production trials have to be ran to make sure that the new die is dialed in correctly to prevent short shots or any other quality defect that plagues injection molding. So you could very well be looking at 6 months or more to make production level parts, that does not include the new supplier selection process. Now if that is actually the case that they lost their molds to make parts the above is why it takes so long to get back up and going, not to mention the capitol investment that a company has to make to retool. It would be hard for me to believe that it takes 5 years to retool if the rumors started in 2012. There has to be more to this situation. Of course in the Auto industry we move quickly and for a niche market you might not move so fast. Just my .02 cents worth. -Lucas Last edited by Lucas_Green; 05-03-2017 at 03:43 PM. |
05-03-2017, 03:40 PM | #94 |
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Very good points Lucas.
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05-03-2017, 03:51 PM | #95 |
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Given that Axial recently made a distribution deal with Thunder Tiger earlier this year... My theory is that yes, Axial did lose manufacturing capacity with their original manufacturer. That deal with Thunder Tiger might have been a partnership in order to get their manufacturing capacity back up again through channels that Thunder Tiger can provide... but it takes time to get going. All speculation on my part though. |
05-03-2017, 04:43 PM | #96 |
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I'm sure Axial had an insurance policy in the event of this sort of thing happening & the only thing lost was the time out of the market, the remaining life of the tools & dies that had been produced in the last couple of years as well as the engineering & design cost that went along with them. If in fact they did lose their molding tools & need to create new ones, then I hope they push forward with the SCX10 3 & Wraith 2. |
05-03-2017, 05:21 PM | #97 | |
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05-03-2017, 05:49 PM | #98 |
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So I guess this was a good time for Traxxas to drop their new rig eh? |
05-04-2017, 07:59 PM | #99 |
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05-04-2017, 08:24 PM | #100 |
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I heard they got there molds but unsure if it was all or some. And there going through thunder tiger now for manufacturing. I just hope there quality doesn't get any worse. We will see.
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