Fox News anchor Trish

[Jim85IROC]

Originally Posted by Peaker

I know people older than myself ( i am 53 ) that have never worked a day in their life, And they lived good, supplementing their welfare with things like sale of drugs.
And yes the Danish welfare system ( mainly ) are like a magnet for 3 world people.

You literally just described the American immigration problem.

[Greatscott]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Every now and then I have to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Bqx3iXFdM&t=2s

I cannot get over it. It's become and obsession of mine.

How can she compare Denmark to Venezuela? It's like comparing USA to North-Korea because they have in common that they both have presidents.

And she's not talking like she wants to inform, but to convince. Who wants to be convinced by a fool? She's asking rhetorical questions and making grimaces. Like, what the hell...

A suitable punishment for her would be to do forced labor in a cupcake cafe, and pay extra high taxes.

First, lets just agree they fair and unbiased reporting went by way of the dodo long ago. This includes all "news" outlets, Fox, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, BBC, etc... You are a fool, an idiot, and/or brainwashed if you think any of these agencies are giving you the complete picture without a bias.

Second, this is an opinion piece, and not really "news". So, she is trying to convince.

The big problem with comparing the two is that one system is stable, and the other is in complete chaos. Drawing a line between the two is sketchy at best.

As far as socialism and Demark goes, and how it would be applied here, I really do not want to pay 55% in taxes. That means 5.5 hours of your normal work day goes to the government, no thankyou. If you want free college, join the military, get your GI Bill, and your college is paid for (using mine right now). I am tired of hearing about people's college debt, and how they want other people to pay for their bad decisions. College educated or not, if you spend $125k for a degree to get a $22k/yr job, you are an idiot.

Originally Posted by Peaker

I know people older than myself ( i am 53 ) that have never worked a day in their life, And they lived good, supplementing their welfare with things like sale of drugs.
And yes the Danish welfare system ( mainly ) are like a magnet for 3 world people.
And it is funny they come here not even being able to read or write the language where they come from, and with the Danish system if they took full advantage of it their children could be literally anything.
BUT ! many just let their kids roam the streets,and when they leave school they can barely read or write Danish, and its not like Danish schools are that bad.

I also know that in the old days a lot of Danes went "F" this shithole i am going to America
And many actually managed to do quite well for them self over there VS being a peasant in the old country.

We Danes might have dealt with basic problems earlier than the US due to that country being so new compared to us, but we have also failed a lot and paid a high price to get to where we are today.
And we also share a lot of current world problems with our American friends and the rest of the worlds, some things we need to face together some we must deal with alone.

Homeless people here are mostly that by choice, at any time they could go to a welfare office and filter back into society.
But of course mental problems and drug use can make that problematic, we also had a few Soldiers fall thru the safety net due to PTSD.

I am having problems here too, cuz there are such a large "American" living inside me that the way Danish society "embrace" me i feel like a insult.
For instance if you loose your job, you enter a control system to make sure you look for a new job,,,,,, which to me are a insult cuz of course you look for a new job,,,, i mean that's normal,,,,,,, in my world at least.
But things like that have been instigated as there are so many freeloaders here, and after all we are only about 4 million or so out of the total 6 million that pay tax to keep the wheels rolling on the Danish model.
And then when American parasites suck billions of DKKr out of our system with some kind of share selling trick it don't make it better, TBH those rats i would like to go " good old Danish" on and split their skulls, and burn their long island mansions to the ground.

Excellent perspective here. And, the root of it is, if the citizenry there wish to live under socialism, it is their choice, good or bad.

Here in the good'ol USA, I don't want socialism here. I think people need to make better decisions for themselves and get held accountable for making bad ones. Use these people as an example of what not to do, which is scary, because there is a push to not teach history. Capitalism works, it appeals to our very nature. If you inject a healthy does of liberal social conciseness into the mix, then we take care of the people that need help.

I understand why it is insulting, but I do like that the Danish welfare system makes you look for a job. For a lot of us, that would be insulting, but here in the US, there are too many people are content to not work and live off of the tax-payer's dime when they are fully capable of employment.

JMHO...

[Peaker]

I am arguing for putting people like that in a room instead of apartments, that should here add up to a 70% savings at least
There they should have a warm place to sleep. 3 meals a day, and access to what ever is needed to look for work or education.


My little sister was 17 when she popped the first kid out, no school exams or nothing, but when the kid arrived she went strait onto a large 3 room apartment ( costing 2 X more than what i pay for my current 2 room apartment )
All paid for and on the side of course welfare or allowance/ pocket money.


And i had to go kick the kids father out when he finally snapped completely on drugs. ( kid was 1 year old then )Dude still managed to freak my sister completely out and to this day she still have name and address protection, even if i told here that what ever he would do to her i would return 2 fold with a smile.
The father to the #2 kid was a biker, and i knew the club well as we had,,,,,,, "some interactions" but he vaporized on his own, which is good cuz if you mess with one of those parasites you mess with all of them, so it would have been a bloodbath.
Only the father to the #3 kid was unproblematic though his drinking in the end terminated that relationship too.


I would also like to welcome refugees here, but we should make one of our islands to a place for them to stay until they can return and make their home country better, meanwhile we should educate them as is needed for their home country.
Like now having them in society are no good, the cost are far too great, and there are no one that win by the current solution.


I would even vote for changes to Danish society that would probably render my life unsustainable ( as really we cant afford anything else )
Anyway i have lived a full life, so i can just eat a 12 gauge sandwich if i cant deal with it.


I am sooooooo happy i don't have any kids, i feel people that have must be really optimistic at best.

Denmark is a Social - democratic - monarchy, so we have a parliament and elections every 4 years, and we have like 16 eligible parties to vote for, some far left some far right and some in the middle of it all.
And we have a royal family though for a long time all they have been is a hood ornament for Denmark,,,,,, one i could personally do without.
And it seem like the socialism here are that we have made a society where we via that care much for each other, IRL Danes don't care all that much for each other, but apparently enough to pay a lot in tax so the next guy if he should need it can get more help than in many other places.
And we also have the personal philanthropy where people donate to this and that more or less good cause.

[themountain]

Originally Posted by Mopar man

Fuk Denmark and Venezuela ,so glad I was by the grace of god born in this great country USA.

Fox News is exaaaactly for idiots like you...congratulations

[themountain]

...ignorance at its best

Originally Posted by JatoTheRipper

Most homeless people do it by choice.

Also, most people are poor by choice. That's why I'm glad Trump is trying to eliminate food stamps for 700,000 healthy adults that are lazy and leeching off of the system.

[Mr. Crawley EC]

She needs to live a few weeks in a third world socialist country like I do... then she can talk.

[Mike Flea]

Originally Posted by themountain

Fox News is exaaaactly for idiots like you...congratulations

Originally Posted by themountain

...ignorance at its best

Answers only a true Liberal could conceive

[themountain]

Originally Posted by Mike Flea

Answers only a true Liberal could conceive

I am a socialist....and have some common sense ;)

[bbrigg]

Originally Posted by themountain

I am a socialist....and have some common sense ;)

Doubtful at best.

Please name a socialist country you would prefer to live in. Scandinavia is excluded as they have repeatedly complained about Americans calling them socialist while they rank pretty high, higher than the US in some cases, on the freedom index. Just having welfare and single payer doesn't count as socialism, they need capitalists to pay the bills, just like China.

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[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by themountain

I am a socialist....and have some common sense ;)

No, having common sense is not sitting on one side of the river barking incessantly at the other side while the other side does the same. Common sense is being able to navigate the river and realize the dogs barking on both sides at each other are just noisy animals.

[4wd4ws]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

No, having common sense is not sitting on one side of the river barking incessantly at the other side while the other side does the same. Common sense is being able to navigate the river and realize the dogs barking on both sides at each other are just noisy animals.

Turn off your TV.

[themountain]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

No, having common sense is not sitting on one side of the river barking incessantly at the other side while the other side does the same. Common sense is being able to navigate the river and realize the dogs barking on both sides at each other are just noisy animals.

Funny ...coming from somebody out of the great US of A.Specially from Texas .

[themountain]

Originally Posted by bbrigg

Doubtful at best.

Please name a socialist country you would prefer to live in.

Ever heard about Spain ;)
BTW plenty of people here on the board living in south america (Equador, Peru, Chile) Whats their excuse ?

[bbrigg]

Spain is a constitutional monarchy. They flirt a little with a socialist party but are no more socialist than France or Italy.

https://www.heritage.org/index/country/spain

The US sometimes elects Democrats who are unable to point out any difference between their policies and socialism but that doesn't make the US socialist either.

Socialism has an actual definition. Look it up.

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[4wd4ws]

Originally Posted by themountain

Funny ...coming from somebody out of the great US of A.Specially from Texas .

He's right you know.

[LincolnofDeath]

I love the “noisy animals heard on either side of the river” analogy, and that’s probably as true for my family at Thanksgiving as it was for the Roman senate. There are so many lenses to filter an understanding of a left-right political spectrum that it’s pretty damn hard to get a ten-thousand foot view of my own daily world, or a 30k view, and much less any global consensus on what it all means. I looked at Wikipedia for left-right ideas and linked it below.

I’m writing here just because I sometimes like writing to process my own thoughts, and I hope not to collide impossibly with another’s convictions, at least not in this forum, lol.

I learned a few things that I carry to this day from staying with friends in that part of Arhus that was converted somewhat illegally from post-war food gardens into full-time residences...I’m not sure what exactly except to say that there were hard working people in there living alongside terrible alcoholics that never seemed to do anything but take advantage of the system.

I’m still learning something from going into the bum camps of mentally ill and worst-case junkies, sometimes more than a hundred of them living homeless in Waterman Canyon that are always starting fires on the edge of San Bernardino, where I work as a firefighter. San Bernardino was just rated the third most dangerous city to live in in the US, BTW.

And I’m still processing things from recent and long past backpacking in Hong Kong when the protests were just beginning last May, Vietnam 40 years after the American War as they call it, Turkey before Erdogan but with Kurdish friends made along the way, coming through Yugoslavia in ‘92 when it was still a country and beginning that horror-show, Mexico for six months when Chiapas was in turmoil, the later-day street protests in post Pinochet Chile, the economic turbulence of contemporary Argentina a couple years ago, and running around the Punjab with a homie I went to college with twenty years earlier while he explained the complicated aspects of free electricity for all in a population like that almost impossibly complex dynamic that is India.

Each one of those places had a local, 10k, 30k and global perspective peculiar to their culture, and fueled by conviction. Each could be more or less plotted on a left-right political spectrum. And although it is sometimes helpful to use a left-right lense, I do not think there is a single lense that would let me see it all with much accuracy or a complete understanding. It’s all become, for me now as it was not always so in the past, much more complex and somehow easier to stomach at the same time. A lot of these terms we throw around have pretty interesting origins and some historical context is probably helpful to understanding their current evolution. Books can be a nice change of pace from the more prevalent media.
Peace! (And sorry for going so long here. I’ve got a lot of time to kill nursing my step-mom after knee replacement two days ago)

Nihilist: Fathers and Sons, Turgenev
Pre-socialist labor in the “West”: Germinal, Zola
Anarchist: The Secret Agent, Conrad
U.S. American democracy applied abroad: The Quiet American, Greene

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left...tical_spectrum


Back to tiny trucks. I painted this yesterday for my step-mother. My dad wore white and an orange half-face Bell for racing boats in the sixties. That’s my excuse for the funky color scheme. RIP Edgar Peters, ‘1945-2017. I love you, Du.

[Stormin2u]

Originally Posted by tjohanne

Every now and then I have to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Bqx3iXFdM&t=2s

I cannot get over it. It's become and obsession of mine.

How can she compare Denmark to Venezuela? It's like comparing USA to North-Korea because they have in common that they both have presidents.

And she's not talking like she wants to inform, but to convince. Who wants to be convinced by a fool? She's asking rhetorical questions and making grimaces. Like, what the hell...

A suitable punishment for her would be to do forced labor in a cupcake cafe, and pay extra high taxes.

No worries Trish Reagan has been around for many years. She was on Bloomberg Financial News for years before FOX. She has a degree in economics not that she could quite get a handle on American economics she was a square peg in a round hole. She was typically more interested in what she was wearing and her hair than the issues of the day. It didn't surprise me when she went to FOX, they've always had a bevy of beauties on hand regardless of their qualifications.

Nobody including Trish mentioned that for many years Denmark has been one of the countries with the "happiest people in the world" and that's a far cry from any South American dictatorship like Venezuela . Congratulations there are many things that make you a great Nation.

Why Denmark dominates the World Happiness Report rankings year after year

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by themountain

Funny ...coming from somebody out of the great US of A.Specially from Texas .

Good job proving my point.

[NoobCrawler]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

No, having common sense is not sitting on one side of the river barking incessantly at the other side while the other side does the same. Common sense is being able to navigate the river and realize the dogs barking on both sides at each other are just noisy animals.

Damn, that is spot on. I lean more conservative, but pretty much hold the same disdain for both side of our elected bafoons.

[Peaker]

I only voted in the last Danish election due to 3 new parties had arrived.
I would never - ever vote for the old established parties.


Really if a political party have existed for more than 20 - 30 years, it is doing it wrong, and its sure as hell not making the really unpopular decisions they are supposed to do.
And the longer it have existed the more it have failed, and quite a few here date back to when the king finally relinquished power and we became a democracy.