well.... Picked up a Turbo Dodge!

[BJoe]

Originally Posted by scalerfreak

well crap, good thing i didnt order it yet, lol

Glad you saw that in time!

[TwistedXT]

here some pics of my 88cs and the other demon spawns in my driveway:

[TwistedXT]

Originally Posted by BJoe

To be honest, don't buy that because it won't work on the induction setup you have! You car had the "draw through" induction system, so that if you let off the throttle, all it does is cut the airflow to the turbo because this setup places the throttle body in a way that it draw air through the TB before it goes into the turbo then feeds the air directly into the intake manifold. Blow off valves release the income air from the turbo and/or intercooler going to the TB when you let off the throttle on engines that use the "blow through" system. Ppretty much everything else out there uses this system, including 1988 and later T1's MOPARs.

you sure about that.. from here it looks like the air is drawn through the cpu and the mass air flow sensor then the air box (which contains the blowoff valve inside to re-circulate the air - i just looked) the to the turbo which forces the air up to through the "throttle body" into the intake plenum to the engine, thus the setup is not a draw through. the poin of the blow off valve if when you shift the engine rpms drop but the pressue is still pushing more then it needs to, the blow off valve helps to release teh excess pressure to help keep the turbo spooled up. The factory blowoff valve is crap! mine leaks like a siv while pressure is building. while workin on my daytona tonight (failed emissions) had 1 fouled plug and the intake from the computer to the inbox was leakin like a well, siv and messin up the air fuel ratio. some hose clamps fixed her right up. stupid thing was runnin on 3 cyl. no wonder it failed, was pumpin gas right down the exhaust. i still ahve a leak (BOV) it will only push 3-5 lbs.. that should fix the problem.. plastic POS

check out the pictures below as refference

[xjman]

Originally Posted by 2JSC

Sleeper? Only if you can keep the head gasket from blowing... or the turbo from falling apart. The one my friend had was a horrible pile of ****. Blew 2 head gaskets, even after resurfacing. Then 2 months later the turbo just imploded on itself. If you wan a late 80's Turbo import, look for a Mitsubishi Starion or Toyota Supra. Chrysler never had good luck with turbo motors, even if they didn't make them.

I'm not a huge Turbo Mopar fan, but didn't Mitsubishi make the motor in those?

[scalerfreak]

so in other words, that BOV and adaptor WILL work?

[TwistedXT]

lookin at the pics above.. yes... if it wouldnt work.. you wouldnt have a bov in the first place

[scalerfreak]

true, but mine is the stock one, and isnt it just a piece of plastic with a spring inside of it, and i think mine is leaking i think

[TwistedXT]

for $50 bucksa, id upgrade it! on a side note on the intercooler, be wearey of the size that you use... an intercooler helps out big time to cool the charged air beiong pumped into your motor, BUT, with the addition of an intercooler and associated piping to connect it, that is more air to compress till boost is met. you may notice a couple hundred rpm's diff till the turbo breaks loose. so just remember that a huge intercooler could actually hurt ya. some expensive intercoolers have horsepower ratings, find one thats good for 3-400 horse and try to stick within that same size. like i stated before, up under the nose in front of the radiator has GOBS of room for a decently sized intercooler.

[BJoe]

Scaler's Daytona has a whole different induction system than the later cars, Chrysler used the Draw Through system from '84-87 on the Turbo 1's (my '85 Lebaron had the same setup as this Daytona, and yes I'm sure, I owned that car 8 years and it was rarely worked on by anybody be Dad and myself.) Shelby started using the Blow Through on the '86 GLHS 4dr (Omni) and installed it on the "Turbo 2" (basicly a T1 with a blow through system installed) GLHS 2dr (Charger), and Shelby Lancer (Dodge version of my Lebaron). Chrysler also installed their T2 (using better rod ends and crank as well as a stonger block IIRC) on Daytona's in '87. In '88 the T1's recieved the blow through design which carried through the rest of the 2.2/2.5 SOHC Turbo lineup until Chrysler pulled the plug in the early 90's. Only ones not to get that later setup were the Lotus and Maserati headed 2.2's, in Mexico you could even get a 2.2 and/or2.5 with the turbo manifold on a naturally asperated motor, which I think ran 15-20 hp more and got better mileage to boot! I don;t know the address off hand, but try to find Russ Kinze's mini Mopar site, that should be much more descriptive than I have been in my last couple posts on how this system works.

[TwistedXT]

Originally Posted by BJoe

Scaler's Daytona has a whole different induction system than the later cars, Chrysler used the Draw Through system from '84-87 on the Turbo 1's (my '85 Lebaron had the same setup as this Daytona, and yes I'm sure, I owned that car 8 years and it was rarely worked on by anybody be Dad and myself.) Shelby started using the Blow Through on the '86 GLHS 4dr (Omni) and installed it on the "Turbo 2" (basicly a T1 with a blow through system installed) GLHS 2dr (Charger), and Shelby Lancer (Dodge version of my Lebaron). Chrysler also installed their T2 (using better rod ends and crank as well as a stonger block IIRC) on Daytona's in '87. In '88 the T1's recieved the blow through design which carried through the rest of the 2.2/2.5 SOHC Turbo lineup until Chrysler pulled the plug in the early 90's. Only ones not to get that later setup were the Lotus and Maserati headed 2.2's, in Mexico you could even get a 2.2 and/or2.5 with the turbo manifold on a naturally asperated motor, which I think ran 15-20 hp more and got better mileage to boot! I don;t know the address off hand, but try to find Russ Kinze's mini Mopar site, that should be much more descriptive than I have been in my last couple posts on how this system works.

Holly crap man! your like a plethera of turbo dodge info! Your ight about his turbo setup... i just went back through his initial post, i though it was an 88 (same body style as 2 of mine) and noticed the engine bay. yup... different turbo setup... although, in a previouspost he was lookin at T2 intake and such, with that change over then he could use the aftermarket BOV

so for now, your right, im wrong. your fast and witty, im partially retarded. Your pretty, im not so attractive.

[scalerfreak]

lol, so i guess i wont order the BOV, and ill save for something else, lol

[TwistedXT]

start raiden the junk yards.. find either a daytona or a lebaron t2 intercooled... take everything from the intake to teh exhaust manifoled turbo and all, computer, wiring harness... everything. the t2 intake upgrade with intercooler and t3/t4 turbo upgrade should help big time. now, ive never done this myself so i would look extesivley for information on the crossover

[TwistedXT]

i do know that the t1/t2 radiators are different.. teh t2 is smaller to fit the intercooler next to it

[TwistedXT]

Originally Posted by scalerfreak

lol, so i guess i wont order the BOV, and ill save for something else, lol

you migth not but i will... whats the link?

[scalerfreak]

right here my man, right here

take pics of the install for me, lol

adapter
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=230176219512


BOV
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Type-...QQcmdZViewItem

[scalerfreak]

so TwistedXT, is this the grainger valve you were talking about, and if so, will it just fit right in?

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611714317

[slowrockr]

I used one of them on my daily driven daytona, very simple and reliable. Pretty much set it and forget it. Have you been checkin out thedodgegarage.com ?


Ahh the Grainger valve! (McMaster-Carr sells them as part number: 48935K25) Think mini air pressure regulator- hook one end to the wastegate and the other to the intake and your done! Set and forget. Want multiple levels of boost? Get two and hook them up with a solenoid and change boost levels with the flip of a switch!

[Mnster]

Thank you mod for changing the topic of the thread. I no longer have to click this thread for the 8th time to figure out it was the same thread I clicked minutes ago.

Turbo dodges are sleepers. Thats it nothing more.

[scalerfreak]

so what all do i need to have other then the valve to run it, like hoses, mounting hardware, ect. ect.

[BJoe]

Originally Posted by TwistedXT

Holly crap man! your like a plethera of turbo dodge info! Your ight about his turbo setup... i just went back through his initial post, i though it was an 88 (same body style as 2 of mine) and noticed the engine bay. yup... different turbo setup... although, in a previouspost he was lookin at T2 intake and such, with that change over then he could use the aftermarket BOV

so for now, your right, im wrong. your fast and witty, im partially retarded. Your pretty, im not so attractive.

Naw, I'm not that full of info...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (sorry couldn't help it)

Actually, I also went back and double checked to see if I'd seen the underhood pic right too and when you've spent 8 years owning, wrenching on, and driving that set up and later 4 of those 8 years with both setups, you notice and learn things and the education only gets worse once the internet gets involved (atleast it's usable for things other than porn). Funny thing is, I've noticed that commonality thing with the four Cherokee's we've had in this family as well as the Traxxas 2wd electrics I own too..........anybody notice a pattern here? IIRC '87 was the first year for the first revision in the G-body (as well as the death of the Chrysler Laser, anybody here remember that one?)