RCH Summer comp @ Palmer July 24th

[flapjack]

oh no...im not mentioning names or specific events....but replay?....you know what i mean cruzn

[Fordx4Ranger]

Originally Posted by Cruzin Illusion

1.12 - Course Direction (10 pts) Gates must be cleared in their intended direction and sequence. Any part
of the vehicle entering an un-cleared gate in the wrong direction, or driven through out of sequence will result
in a 10 point penalty. The judge will stop time. The vehicle is then moved back by the driver to the previously
cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course
design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will
be used for all drivers. Once the gate is cleared and awarded progress it can be traveled in any sequence or
direction.

[rmdesignworks]

Good day today guys,,Thanks Bruno and Neil,,the judges,,and everyone who showed up. Lookin forward to the next one.

[hootie]

That was fun never been down to palmer park b4. I can spend all day down there






OH YA Thanks For the XR-10

[Hoppa]

Originally Posted by Cruzin Illusion

1.12 - Course Direction (10 pts) Gates must be cleared in their intended direction and sequence. Any part
of the vehicle entering an un-cleared gate in the wrong direction, or driven through out of sequence will result
in a 10 point penalty. The judge will stop time. The vehicle is then moved back by the driver to the previously
cleared gate with the rear axle aligned to that gate. If the vehicle cannot be aligned to the gate due to course
design, the judge will reposition the vehicle to the next stable location after the cleared gate. This location will
be used for all drivers. Once the gate is cleared and awarded progress it can be traveled in any sequence or
direction.

OOPS.

[666]

There are rules?

[paintballer9876]

I guess someone didnt know the rules, now that i think about the person that the rules effected would have ended up in finals if it were not for the 50 point dq.

[Fattymojo]

Originally Posted by hootie

That was fun never been down to palmer park b4. I can spend all day down there






OH YA Thanks For the XR-10

Whata PUNK

Originally Posted by paintballer9876

I guess someone didnt know the rules, now that i think about the person that the rules effected would have ended up in finals if it were not for the 50 point dq.

Originally Posted by paintballer9876

I guess someone didnt know the rules, now that i think about the person that the rules effected would have ended up in finals if it were not for the 50 point dq.

Thats too bad.

Wish i could have come down for this, just couldn't risk it with work. I would be willing for a day trip though to check it out if anyone wants to gather one of these weekends

[69CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by paintballer9876

I guess someone didnt know the rules, now that i think about the person that the rules effected would have ended up in finals if it were not for the 50 point dq.

Maybe not because after the 10 point reposition how does anyone know he would have finished. This was run by a seperate marshal also who agreed with it $hit happens sometimes so people should put on their big boy panties and get over it. If he had timed out due to this than he would have had a 26 instead of a 50 which still would have put him in 6th place I believe.

Lets see what other comp have people been to recently that cost $15, everyone won at least 1 giveaway item if not 2, they raffled off many nice prizes including an XR10, and the #1 driver won $175.

In my opinion this was the best comp for the money that I have ever been to.

[dingaling]

Originally Posted by 69CrazyHorse

Maybe not because after the 10 point reposition how does anyone know he would have finished. This was run by a seperate marshal also who agreed with it $hit happens sometimes so people should put on their big boy panties and get over it. If he had timed out due to this than he would have had a 26 instead of a 50 which still would have put him in 6th place I believe.

Lets see what other comp have people been to recently that cost $15, everyone won at least 1 giveaway item if not 2, they raffled off many nice prizes including an XR10, and the #1 driver won $175.

In my opinion this was the best comp for the money that I have ever been to.

I didnt win a prize

[Cruzin Illusion]

Originally Posted by 69CrazyHorse

Maybe not because after the 10 point reposition how does anyone know he would have finished. This was run by a seperate marshal also who agreed with it $hit happens sometimes so people should put on their big boy panties and get over it. If he had timed out due to this than he would have had a 26 instead of a 50 which still would have put him in 6th place I believe.

Lets see what other comp have people been to recently that cost $15, everyone won at least 1 giveaway item if not 2, they raffled off many nice prizes including an XR10, and the #1 driver won $175.

In my opinion this was the best comp for the money that I have ever been to.

Maybe a copy of the rules should be available at the comps so when a questionable call comes up the people running the comp can refer to them. If you run a comp maybe you should be familiar with the rules so a situation like this is avoided.

By the way, I am on a diet and trying to get out of my big boy pants

[paintballer9876]

Originally Posted by 69CrazyHorse

Maybe not because after the 10 point reposition how does anyone know he would have finished. This was run by a seperate marshal also who agreed with it $hit happens sometimes so people should put on their big boy panties and get over it. If he had timed out due to this than he would have had a 26 instead of a 50 which still would have put him in 6th place I believe.

Lets see what other comp have people been to recently that cost $15, everyone won at least 1 giveaway item if not 2, they raffled off many nice prizes including an XR10, and the #1 driver won $175.

In my opinion this was the best comp for the money that I have ever been to.

By what i saw he had plenty of time and lots of points, plus he wasnt very happy after the run which more than likely affected his other runs. Yes he could have had a 26 but then again he also could have had a negative score putting him in at least 4th place.

I am not saying the comp was run badly it was a great comp and i had lots of fun, but the failure to look at the rules and they way the penalty was given was wrong. The judge didnt make the call it was a few peanut gallery members that pointed it out. They way his tires went over the gate was just like the many that were before and after him. Neil ran a great comp and i would go to it again, but i didnt say anywhere that the comp was bad. That call was questionable and the rules where not consulted that is my issue.

[EXW]

I thought I would post up since I would hate to see this whole thing get out of control and in anyway distract from a truly great comp. So, a couple of comments from my point of view:

First, Neil and I spoke this morning about it and there are no hard feeling. In fact, there were no hard feelings at the time. I judged a course for Neil later in the day and was as excited as ever to see him pull amazing lines and get a killer score.

Second, at the time the call was made, I did not agree with it. I could tell that the judge wasn't too comfortable either. This is where I need to apologize. Even though I didn't agree with the call, I should have been more gracious about accepting the decision.

When I think of a DQ and the penality attached to it, right or wrong, I associated this with someone who has deliberately broken a rule to gain an unfair advantaged (why else have a penality that erases progresses earned). So, in my mind, I felt like I was being called a cheater. I realize this is not the case, but it is how I felt at that moment on course, and it took a little while to clear my head. As I mentioned, I should have just voiced my disagreement, accepted the DQ, moved on with my day, and not let it bother me.

Third, I really do appreciate everyone who has voiced an opinion on this and I'm glad the rule is cleared up. However, I don't want this to be a big deal. I'll admit I was dissapointed yesterday, but after reading the rule that Tom posted, I'm looking at it as a learning experience for myself.

Lastly, it was a great comp. Great location, sponsors, judges, and drivers.

Ethan

[skid plate]

All things aside, including the fact that I broke on course 1, I had a great time at one of the best places still available to crawl just about anytime.

A big thanks to Bruno, Neil, Judges, spectators, and drivers for the great event, all the fun and very challenging lines. A day at a place like this is heaven, and I sure am glad it is still available for all of us to use.

Wish I could have stayed longer but commitments are plenty these days.


Thanks again and looking forward to the next event as always.



JC

[69CrazyHorse]

Jeff,

You won a prize in the raffle. Bruno has it for you.

Ethan,

You are a very gracious sportsman!

[Neil76]

First off I would like to Thank everybody that made it out and appologize to Ethan for not having the rules printed off and available, as "I" was wrong. BUT a Thank you to Ethan for being a man about it and remembering this is about having FUN! So with that said;
Here are the results

Novice
Dillon 32,-8,25,30,-7=72
Chris 30,28,18,25,-5=96
Bay 30,34,17,22,32=135
Carissa 30,34,32,38,5=139
Thomas R 30,24,34,17=139
Natalia 30,24,32,34,32=152

Pro
James -10,-8,-10,-11,-20=-59
Tim W -15,-20,30,-19,-8=-32
Tom L -10,26,-5,1,-17=-5
Josh H -10,7,-19,10,11=-1
Tim V 18,3,22,-19,6=30
Jeff C 30,12,-11,6,50=87
Paul 16,24,4,-4,50=90
David C 20,-2,28,-2,50=94
Dan E -7,26,30,-3,50=96
Becky B -3,3,22,24,50=96
Ethan -20,50,22,-3,50=99
Adam D 2,16,22,20,50=110
Wes 26,26,4,5,50=111
Bruno 7,24,26,11,50=118
Casey 30,24,22,-1,50=125
Wyatt 26,26,24,-1,50=125
Brady -4,24,32,28,50=130
Kelley 5,26,32,19,50=132
Paul C 11,26,32,24,50=143
Tim C 24,24,34,15,50=147
Brian M 26,24,28,22,50=150
Kris D 30,24,26,26,50=156
Darren 26,26,30,26,50=158
Tony 24,24,28,32,50=158
Derrek 32,34,34,30,50=180

[cato]

[QUOTE=69CrazyHorse;2559590]Jeff,

You won a prize in the raffle. Bruno has it for you.


Tom....he said I could have it, so bring it to the next HT comp...

[skid plate]

[QUOTE=cato;2560328]

Originally Posted by 69CrazyHorse

Jeff,

You won a prize in the raffle. Bruno has it for you.


Tom....he said I owe him so much that I should go ahead and just add another $100 dollars to it!!!!! I will send you my paypal info.......

Fixed it for you buddy.

LOL









JC

[SpeedRacer917]

just wanted to say thanks to Bruno & Neil for putting up such a great event. I had fun even though the courses seemed impossible at times.

thanks again guys!