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08-04-2010, 09:30 AM | #21 |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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I am assuming that there will be no scale bonus points for this event? If so, I can save some weight by loosing the interior, and light bar. |
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08-04-2010, 09:51 AM | #22 |
Gettin’ back on the horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hoonsville
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08-04-2010, 10:24 AM | #23 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 5280'
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There will be some kind of points system, we are still trying to set it up. i should have a update by tomorrow on the way it will be. Wyhtt and I did some work on the pulling and Obstacle course yesterday. the obstacle course turned into more of a tank trap just wanted to make sure that they know waterproof is a must!! the course is not very long but there will be a ton of water and mud! | |
08-04-2010, 11:06 AM | #24 | |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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Water and mud sounds good, I need to extend my antennaes up above the roof. Learned my lesson in Montana, don't submerge a Spektrum or a Losi antennae. | |
08-04-2010, 06:00 PM | #25 |
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08-04-2010, 08:39 PM | #26 |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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08-10-2010, 02:26 PM | #27 |
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08-10-2010, 09:03 PM | #28 |
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08-11-2010, 01:19 PM | #29 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 5280'
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Top Truck Challenge scale scoring: Scale points- Max points -15 or +15 -Metal bumpers -2 (max amount of -4) -Plastic bumpers +2 (max amount of +4) -Metal rock sliders -2 -Plastic rock sliders +2 -Hard body -4 (must have minimum of full cab, including hood and front quarter panels) -4 max regardless of full bed or not (metal cab is also included in this points deduction following same rules of hardbody) -Lexan body 0 -Scale accessories -1 (max of -5) -Working lights -2 (must have front and rear) -Scale winch -2 -Tube bed -3 (must have metal tubing) -Tube bed +3 (plastic tubing) -Tube roll cage -3 (must have metal tubing) -Tube roll cage +3 (plastic tubing) -Full interior -4 -Lexan interior -2 -Plus points for plastic -Minus points for metal Top Truck Challenge course scoring: Frame twister/Tank Trap- -Gate progress -2 -3 min course -Fastest finshed time wins -Out of bounds +10sec time will be added to end of the run -no penalty for reverse or winching. Mini rubicon- -Gate progress -2 -Driver assist+4 (if the assistance of another vehicle is needed) -Roll over touch+5 -Repositon+10 -Reverse +1 -Gate marker +10 -No penalty for winching Hill climb- -Gate progress -2 -Gate marker +10 -NO winching,reverses or Reposition Truck pull- -Driver must call out to stop time -All vehicles must start with chain taught and with the skid of the sled in the same spot. Mud bog- -this course will be a bouns. -every foot traveled= -2 points. (I.E. 1ft= -2, 10ft= -20) -all vehicles must start with front tires on the start line. If there is any ?'s post up and ask. Last edited by timmy85; 08-12-2010 at 09:04 AM. |
08-11-2010, 04:43 PM | #30 |
Gettin’ back on the horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hoonsville
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Nice. Pretty good job on the rules. |
08-11-2010, 06:34 PM | #31 |
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08-11-2010, 09:22 PM | #32 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden
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So the way the points are set up, it would be better to not have a bumper at all than to have plastic ones? So for example, a stock honcho (who would run that in this comp?) would get +8 for all the plastic crap, but if you simply removed them you would net 0 points? I just want to make sure I understand, since you usually aren't penalized for plastic parts in scale points. If that's the rules it's fine, I am not disputing them, just looking for clarification. Thanks! |
08-11-2010, 09:42 PM | #33 |
Gettin’ back on the horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hoonsville
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That seems to be the case. Where I sit scale used to be quite a bit different, I don't think the rules are there to dissuade the RTR crowd, but to get them to think outside the kit and actually get some scale aspects to the rig. Not to say they don't look scale, but weight wise there is a huge disadvantage to metal. In theory they could take all the plastic tube work off I suppose, but that would be a bit of an embarrassment of a scaler. Scalers to me have always been about driving something fun and semi-realistic looking. The rule may be a little backwards, but since you pointed it out maybe there should be a section that says bare frame rails are not allowed... |
08-11-2010, 10:34 PM | #34 |
PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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Interesting. So these events are not based on time. That takes a lot of the excitement out of it imo. Competing for time is what makes people run their rigs hard. I figure Guido is at -18 points so the interior is only worth -1 to me. Maybe I'll leave the seats and figures out and save the weight. Then again it looks so much better with them in......hmmmmm Any restrictions on tires? Can we run comp tires? Can I add weight to the front for the truck pull? Can I remove weight or change tires for the mud bog? The rules are a lot different from what we ran in Montana but it still sounds fun. |
08-11-2010, 10:40 PM | #35 |
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I win!! If I show up.... Beware. |
08-12-2010, 12:20 AM | #36 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Golden, CRAWLERADO
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damn wish i could make it to this
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08-12-2010, 09:23 AM | #37 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 5280'
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the way we are going to have it set-up. the tank trap is the only one that time will be a factor. i just changed it on the above post. We will be scoring in a way that every course winner will have a -12. then -11,-10,-9 ect. that way we can keep the scoring easy.we will use the time for the tie breaker. The mud bog is all bonus. so if you have a rig with plastic bumpers,ect you can make up the points there. will round down for pts, if you go 6ft 7in you will get -12pts. NO COMP TIRES ALLOWED You can not change the rig after it is teched in. the weight and tires must stay the same for every course. if you want to run 6s lipo in the mud but 3s on the rocks, both lipos must be in the truck on every course. Last edited by timmy85; 08-16-2010 at 10:09 PM. | |
08-12-2010, 05:20 PM | #38 |
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I'm still not sure I'll be able to make this. If I can it looks like I can shed a lot of weight and unneeded parts/scale items and still keep it at a -15. Right now I'm sitting at a -25 and could be more by the way rules/parts are interpreted.
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08-12-2010, 05:28 PM | #39 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ...the burning end of the rope.
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which of the courses will have water....I know the mudbog will but any other portions of the comp gonna be wet?
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08-13-2010, 09:02 AM | #40 | |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 5280'
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The tank trap will have 8-9 big holes filled with water/mud. we will be doing the puller, hill climb and rubicon courses first. Then the two mud ones after that. that way we all will have clean rigs for the first three. | |
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