10-29-2010, 07:17 PM | #1 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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| Age needs to be public.
...especially if they're in the Classified section. I just find out tonight that a guy that I paid for an item 8 days ago and then had the runaround of ignoring my pm and still hasn't shipped is only 14 years old. I don't like dealing with minors. Except for a select few, on here, most of them are irresponisble little jerks who are slow to ship, and often times misrepresent the items. As of now, there's no way to recognize if somebody is under age. I would like to see either the age listed by their name or not allow people in the classifieds who are under a certain age. |
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10-29-2010, 07:29 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston, TX
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Soo....how will the age that is typed into the profile be verified? It is a good idea...just no real way to check up on the person.... |
10-29-2010, 07:40 PM | #3 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nunya Idaho...
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| true but maybe if its required at the time of registering, they wont try to be sneaky and lie about it....Seems like teens are "proud" about their age lol.
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10-29-2010, 07:50 PM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK.
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Buyer beware. My age is NOYB! |
10-29-2010, 08:41 PM | #5 |
Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO
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All you gotta do is ask, i don't care if people know if i'm 16 or not. But i don't like to be proflied that i'm a 16 year old. So by forcing age to be shown many members would start to profile others. If you have problems with shipping time post it up in the feed back section, slow shipping times, inaccurate item description, etc. So next time you or someone else buys something they know that this person may or may not be a good seller. I usually try to get stuff shipped with 12 hours of payment or at max 24hrs unless i'm up camping ( 99.99% of the time i won't have something for sale if i'm away from home) and i've had two deals go bad, both of which i fixed, one was fairly quickly to get a refund, wasn't even my fault (once i got it back i realized what went wrong). The other kinda was mine (I bought something then turned around and sold it once i got it because i found a better deal(HH esc (before batch 2 release)), the mamba i sold turned out to be go into thermal shut down after 10 mins (I only tested it for 1 min)) and took me awhile to get the money returned cause it took the guy close to 2 weeks to tell me it didn't work right and i already bought the parts to fix my crawler. But other than that everything else i have sold was right on target. possibly we can implement the itrader ratings like some of the other forums do, this may help people look at feedback more often. Possibly will solve this problem. |
10-29-2010, 09:53 PM | #6 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rock Bouncin' with the Patented Technique
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I'm 13. All my feedback is positive. Here, and on other websites. I'm 13, I don't care how old you are or how old you think I am, I expect you to treat me the same as an adult. Deal with me as if I were an adult, Do I care if you know im 13 years old or not? No. I still don't expect you to treat me any different than anybody else you would deal with.
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10-29-2010, 10:02 PM | #7 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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According to the law, I should be dealing with a Childs parent or legal representative. There is very little recourse if it's a child that rips me off. | |
10-29-2010, 11:15 PM | #8 |
Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO
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Well the minor will be either using your parents paypal account, so you can file a dispute and get your money back, or the minor will be using a student account through paypal, in which you can still file a dispute through the parent account. I personally could care less if everyone new if i was 16 or not, but once that age is know you will get profiled, for instance when people talk to a a baby they have a baby talk, when they talk to dog they have a dog talk, when they talk to someone who has a disability or are foreign they talk to that person like they are a retard that doesn't know English. Whether if you realize it or not adding a age will cause profiling. I had to write a whole paper about profiling people in English class a few years back, i don't remember much of it but still some. I understand the part about the law though but as long as stuff is through PayPal you should be able to file a dispute either way, and feed back is key, and if you don't get your item at all or it isn't what you bought and seller ignores you that member can be banned from classified easily. Just for you i'm gonna go into my account settings so my age displays on my account page. about the best i can do although i'm sure the kid part in losikid gives me away just a little, lol |
10-29-2010, 11:29 PM | #9 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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As far as I'm concerned, I'll treat you based on how you conduct yourself. You seem to be able to communicate effectively...good punctuation, spelling and all. I tend to not look down on anybody based on age, race, disability, etc, unless they throw it in your face. For example, I have a problem with people that communicate like the world is a text message. However, matters of a financial nature are really touchy. I won't sell anything to a minor without parental approval. No offence against you, but the laws are pretty ridiculous regarding contracts with a minor. According to the law in most states, you could effectively buy a crawler from me, use it for a year, and then claim that it's not want you wanted. The contract could then be voided (even if you were over 18 at that time) and I'd be forced to refund your money as long as you returned the goods to me. Some states don't require that the goods even be in the same condition as received. If you want to be treated as an adult, then you should focus your energy on the lawmakers who don't respect your right or ability to make decisions for yourself. In the mean time, adults, such as myself, can easily get screwed by dealing with anybody under 18. Quote:
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10-30-2010, 12:43 AM | #10 | |
Got Worms? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Golden, CO
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Once again i understand about the law and how it is all BS. Minors get nothing while they still expect us to pay our income taxes and go to school, and ... as the list goes on. But seriously what teenage is smart enough and has the money for a lawyer to come after you for a lousy 2-3 digit dollar amount. Next the the transaction was done through someones account that is a legal adult whether if that minor logs into the parent account or not, the transaction was done through a adults account. Also I've never heard of taking something back a year later and get a refund, if i could do that i'd go down to the ford dealership get myself a brand new truck and bring it back next year and get a refund, i can't see that happening, or going to a gas station and filling up my tank then demand a refund for the fuel that has been polluted by my gas tank. With the usa as sue happy as it is i figured i would have heard about stories like that and you would have stores ban minors from purchasing goods. I know you say you don't but you chances are (99.99%) you do profile people at least a little in one form or another, it may be a act of kindness as well. I know about the texting stuff as well, i bet you money that you can ask any English teacher how many papers they grade a day that uses texting lingo. I personally send less than 50 texts a month, about all i know is lol wtf lmao ur u y . I know i'm fighting a war right now that can't be won so i'm gonna stop right here. Unless you wanna keep bickering about it, i'm real good at it after all the debates we had in English class, its amazing what you can learn in that class. lol. But if we do we gotta go to chit chat so we don't break any rcc rules. Well um, i hope i get to do some business with you here in about two years but till then i guess we can't. | |
11-05-2010, 01:46 PM | #11 | |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WV
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You offer up the solution of using paypal and filing a dispute. The big issue there is if the person has no balance in their PP account and you file a dispute...PP will only be able to reimburse you if there is money in the account. If the person that ripped you off empties their account prior to the dispute being filed then there is nothing that PP can do to get your money back. It has happened to me twice. Once I got nothing, the other time I received like $20 out of the couple hundred I paid for an item that was never shipped. The third issue is like was already stated...how hard is it to lie about your age when you are signing up for an account. Short of requiring a credit card or something similar to prove you are of age I don't know if it could be done. I do like the iTrader idea though. Not a guarantee but it does help to offer some confidence when you are dealing with others when conducting internet sales and trading. | |
11-05-2010, 09:23 PM | #12 |
Suck it up! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arkansas
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11-06-2010, 06:22 AM | #13 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: QLD, Australia
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I couldn't care less what age I'm dealing with SO LONG as all things go appropriately. Age isn't hard to falsify on the internet so even if it was displayed it wouldn't prove much. I do agree though with the point raised about teenagers being 'proud' about their age on here, I don't get it not sure what their trying to prove. Kieren |
11-06-2010, 07:01 AM | #14 |
Old guy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Arkie-saw and we got ROCKS!
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I got 7 kids and they were not allowed to sell,buy or trade anything unless I said it was OK. The only fall back is, now that they are grown they still ask me about that stuff. |
11-06-2010, 07:09 PM | #15 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rock Bouncin' with the Patented Technique
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| Can I ask why? My parents raised me to where If i wanted something I paid for it. I've traded, bought, sold plenty of times before without my parents knowing. My parents have came home and seen people in my shop that i'm trading on. If its my money why can't I buy what I want too? Within reason I mean nothing like, porno's, weed, other drugs, tobacco, beer, ect. I always ask for something online though. I do ask but its more of advice I should say.
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11-06-2010, 07:25 PM | #16 | |
Old guy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Arkie-saw and we got ROCKS!
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11-06-2010, 07:56 PM | #17 | |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: EvilCrawlerDesigns@comcast.net
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If you or any other children want to be taken seriously, then instead of putting your efforts into responding to a thread such as this trying to explain how responsible you are, you should be contacting your congressmen to have them change the laws regarding the contractural obligations of a minor. As it is, you're not viewed as responsible in the eyes of the law. An adult who enters into a contract with a minor is viewed to be potentially taking advantage of the minor as the law views the minor incapable of deciding for themselves thus making the contract voidable up to 2 years afterward. | |
11-06-2010, 11:29 PM | #18 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: home of the beaver
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11-07-2010, 12:03 AM | #19 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Eastern WA
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I can honestly say I was on RCC when I was 14. I have alot of great feedback and zero bad. All was from 14-16. Havent been RC much since til now again. Age is no excuse really. |
11-07-2010, 12:13 AM | #20 |
cherry bomb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nanaimo, BC, Canada
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i've done some dealings with a few younger peoples on here, no issues (so far). feedback can be huge, only takes 1 or 2 bad buys to make you start checking on them. is this not public? maybe this field should be manditory when joining the forum, if it isn't already |
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