* Official 2011 Scale Rules Questions Thread *

[edge540]

Awesome now we can build

[justinart24]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!! Great job guys!

[team3six]

Aaron, I went through your list. very well done. I made a few revisions to bring to your attention and have a few questions?

Originally Posted by slobin3d

• Scale points above the minimum will be deducted from the(re) competitors overall score

• Vehicles must resemble a real 1:1 rig and it will be up to the collective group to vote on whether a questionable rig is accepted or not.

Is this something that will be done at the comp or can it be done online like last year?

• Winching can only be performed off of natural objects (i.e. trees, rocks, ect...), other vehicles or stakes supplied by the course maker. Winching off of a person such as there shoe or hand is not allowed.

What about use of a Pull Pal from a natural object?

• A front bumper is required and must be mounted to vehicles rail chassis and wider the(n) the chassis (chassis cross rails do not count as bumpers)

• 3D engine: -4.

What about a 2D engine?

• Winch -2 Each

Does this include a servo winch without a dummy winch but has the fairlead or rollout?

And finally, does a permenent light bar bracket welded to the frame rails count as part of the height of the vehicle? I think that this should be concidered as so because it is a part of the truck and not an added on accs.

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by team3six

Aaron, I went through your list. very well done. I made a few revisions to bring to your attention and have a few questions?

you can post up online to ask if your truck or anything else would be legal

if you want to use a pullpal you can but it has to be carried on your vehicle during your entire run

no point for a 2d engine

if its functional it counts


If a lightbar is above the upper windshield frame it counts welded or not. if your lights are inside the cab or below the roof line it does not count

[TURTLE]

Great job, but why are Imex Red Rocks Banned?

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by TURTLE

Great job, but why are Imex Red Rocks Banned?

Got a picture of them on a truck that looks appropriate we will make them legal

[TURTLE]

Originally Posted by slobin3d

Got a picture of them on a truck that looks appropriate we will make them legal

Done

[team3six]

Ummm , I wouldnt call them scale. they look sort of familiar with the patern, but they are not a scale replica of the tire. thats just my opinion

[TURTLE]

Originally Posted by team3six

Ummm , I wouldnt call them scale. they look sort of familiar with the patern, but they are not a scale replica of the tire. thats just my opinion

Neither is a Pitbull.

[team3six]

The Rocker and the Rock beasts share the same tread pattern and just about the same spacing which is only slightly different due to the type of rims we run in RC. Ohh and the Rock beasts have open lugs because its a cross breed tire built for Scale and Comp.

That IMEX tire is just an open lug tire. the lugs dont even really share the same patern, just the same configuration. and the spacing is way larger then the actual tire.

Honestly, is this really scale looking? Imeanits like a 1/2inch of spacing
http://www.imexrc.com/servlet/the-28...ED-ROCK/Detail

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by TURTLE

Done

A compelling argument

I'll have an official answer for you tomorrow

[TURTLE]

Originally Posted by team3six

The Rocker and the Rock beasts share the same tread pattern and just about the same spacing which is only slightly different due to the type of rims we run in RC. Ohh and the Rock beasts have open lugs because its a cross breed tire built for Scale and Comp.

That IMEX tire is just an open lug tire. the lugs dont even really share the same patern, just the same configuration. and the spacing is way larger then the actual tire.

Honestly, is this really scale looking? Imeanits like a 1/2inch of spacing
http://www.imexrc.com/servlet/the-28...ED-ROCK/Detail

Not trying to argue, but just want to get my point across. But come on, you can't possibly say that this

Resembles this

Anymore then a red rock resembles some southern creation. The argument that its by the same manufacturer is not a valid one to me. Also arguing that it is ok to have an open lug because it is a cross bread doesn't offer any more scale appearance to me or the community. And in reality the spacing on the pitbulls is just as off as the Red Rock, I just want to understand the justification from the rules people to why the tire is not allowed when there are 1:1 tires that resemble it just as much as some other legal rc tires.

Originally Posted by slobin3d

A compelling argument

I'll have an official answer for you tomorrow

Thank you. I look forward to Red Rocks being legal.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by TURTLE

Not trying to argue, but just want to get my point across. But come on, you can't possibly say that this

Resembles this

I don't understand people that don't think the 1:1 version looks like the R/C version. They are almost exactly the same. Same lug shapes, just a little more spaced out. The hollow lugs are obviously different, but anyone could do it on the 1:1 tire with a tire grooving tool. Plus, the Rock Beast is MADE BY PITBULL. What's more scale than a tire made by the actual manufacturer?

[PinchFlat]

Are red rocks even a 2.2 tire? I don't even remember them?

[TURTLE]

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

Are red rocks even a 2.2 tire? I don't even remember them?

They are, I have some sitting in the RC room.

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by TURTLE

They are, I have some sitting in the RC room.

I totally missed them even existing... hmmm

[War Pig]

I think everyone had a set around 2006/2007 and tried to make them work as a comp tire.

They work really well in the snow. Pinch, I figured that you'd have a couple of sets mounted up for the winter.

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by War Pig

I think everyone had a set around 2006/2007 and tried to make them work as a comp tire.

They work really well in the snow. Pinch, I figured that you'd have a couple of sets mounted up for the winter.

I think I ignored imex as a viable tire manufacturer after the k-rock came out and failed back in, 2005(?).

[slobin3d]

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

I think I ignored imex as a viable tire manufacturer after the k-rock came out and failed back in, 2005(?).

about the same time you stopped shaving and cutting your hair?

[wurster]

Im happy with the new rules.Ive been to two comps and had fun but the rules sucked ,There were all the class comping to gether and it was a mess.1.9s with 2.2s and this will make it more clear.Im working on a class 3 tuber so now i have rules to work with.It would be no fun to compeet with a toy on 33s aginst a comp tuber on 42s .Thanx